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  1. I believe naturally Nintendo's conference would've stood out the greatest.. they are starting off the next gen after all.. but I am very skeptical of the system itself... While the controller idea is innovative... It takes much more than that to make an impressive console, which the Wii proved.. Not saying that it wasn't successful.. The Wii was a cash cow! But impressive..no.. not at all.. and they're just now getting graphics equivalent to that of it's last gen competitors...so.. I dunno.. skepticism! I'll likely pass on the WiiU for the next few years.. Wait for a price job, wait to see the competition..


    Now the PSVita is something I can see myself getting.. It screamed iPhone...for gamers!! Or more like a gaming system.. with a built in iphone...to talk to gaming friends...while I game! However it's worded, I like the practicality of that! I also like knowing the price tag.. I like knowing that, alot. It seems worth the buck in my opinion.. enough to finally drive me to buy a Sony handheld~ *Moderately excited xD*


    Xbox....muurrr...er.....ehhhhhhhhhhhh..........mehhhhhhhhhhhhh.... No opinion really.. xD


    On a non-console related point.. So disappointed in FF13-2! D: Same auto-battle system!? Preset magic/skill choices? Ughhh... and I swear if this game is linear too.. Pfffffffffffffft...

  2. As I've said before, if you can pull the costume off well then go for it! ^_^


    Unfortunately, I have to disagree with one of the costumes I saw this year.. Scarlet Witch I think it was.. I'm sorry, but please choose another costume that suits you because that one did not look good at all. I think she would have been better off doing like... a femme Captain America.. or.. something else. That just did not look right. I think that you can cosplay whatever you want as long as it makes sense but that one did NOT. If you're reading this, I wish you luck with your future costumes.

    First.. You shouldn't be calling out a cosplayer like this.. and second..


    You know.. in a seperate thread you admitted to assaulting someone because they insulted your own cosplay choice... Yet then you do the same thing.. So it may have not looked right in your opinion, so what? Who ever she was probably had enough to deal with at the con itself, just as you did in your own Flash costume.. and to come here and read such things can't be making her feel any better. I'm hoping that, who ever she is and no matter how she looked, she rocked that outfit. Rocked it, and further more doesn't give a damn what anyone else thinks. If you don't think it looks right.. so what? You're not the one wearing it. She knew what she was doing when she made the cosplay choice and it was her opinion that mattered at the end of the day. Everyone should wear whatever they want, and if they have the courage to do so, then who are you to make them insecure?.. And to be hypocritical no less.. *Sigh* Thats just one of my peeves..

  3. But those little kids, like Baby chocobo, were cute and sweet. They didn't have pounds and pounds of make up or were told to act like they are higher/better than everyone else. People in the masquerade are judged on their costumes, but a lot of the cosplays don't look even close to as horrible as some of the outfits the little girls wear. Some girls wear show girl outfits that you find at Las Vegas!


    Just look at these! http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/files/2011/01/500x_640_toddlers_bustier_1711.jpg, http://www.sfgate.com/blogs/images/sfgate/sfmoms/2009/07/21/18934_LOWRES_205_DSC08736_m375x474.jpg


    And I don't think anyone is talking about shunning them. They are saying they don't like how parents are treating their kids and how the kids are acting and that their parents are encouraging their terrible behavior.


    o.o; Well, I will definitely agree with you there. Often, their outfits are quite more.. outlandish.. (Though.. Mini-Madonna?!...Half of me feels...that's sad..the other feels it's... awesome.. Horribly awesome.. xD)


    Thing is, I feel like the same way we're stereotyped, we're stereotyping them in the same manner. If people took the time to watch the show, they would notice that even underneath the masks, these kids are still.. kids! They're not being taught to be a snob, nor do they think they're better than their friends, peers, or the rest of the world.. And you must keep in mind that it is a competition, so of course you want to be the best...but at the end of the day, the children shown in the commercials are the rare few who are actually out of line... They air that as an attention getter... Aigoo.. People need to take the time to maybe watch, or even become more aware of the hobby/lifestyle other than these drama-infused media outlets before passing judgement..


    ..*Shrugs* But let me not spoil this.. @w@;; Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course.. *Scurries back to lurking corner*

  4. I actually watched a few episodes..and it's really not as bad as everyone perceives.. Often, the newsworthy articles you hear regarding these pageants are well.. outliers.. A mom giving her child surgery and botox..who does that!?


    Sure, we may all frown upon it.. Glorifying false beauty and instilling such a mentality in a child at a young age... but after watching this show, these parents are in no way "bad"..and for all of us without children, who are we to judge, anyway? If parents want to raise their children into such a lifestyle, then so be it, and it's not like they force the girls to continue it as they grow older.. I know for a fact when I have kids someday, I'd love for them to tag along with me at ACen wearing cosplay.. xD If they enjoy it, awesome, if not, I'll let them stop. Sure pagants are distasteful, and even immoral to some, but that doesn't give us the right to shun them..


    "A crowd of grown ups, cheering on little girls in foofy outfits on stage? yeah, not weird at all..."


    ....didn't we, as congoers, do just this at ACen? This year at the masquerade?.. Or did we already forget the mini Princess Peach and Daisy... The Chibimoon(s) or the swooned over baby chocobo.. and please correct me if you didn't see "brats" running around the Vending Halls as well..


    Is it the same, not at all.. but it does seem that our standards are rather opinionated, which is alright. What isn't right is judging parents, or anyone for that matter on it.. I feel like out of any community, we should be the last to be doing so as we're commonly judged upon and shunned for our interests, our garb, and our lifestyles as well.. and some cosplayers do consider it a lifestyle.

  5. Unfortunately, there's not a whole lot we can do beyond hope that attendees will visit the website/our Facebook and Twitter pages, sign up for our newsletters, and check for information and updates (even by word of mouth, if at all possible). And out of all the folks who come to the convention, we know there will be a good chunk who don't/can't do that, for whatever reason. But that's why we try to have resources available at con...it's just a matter of making sure those resources stay as accurate and updated as possible.


    When attendees don't check the official websites and what not.. that I understand, but one of the problems I've noticed is that alot of the information regarding the con this year could be found only on the forums, it was my biggest reason for joining the forums in the first place. And it's been said more than once.. This year, not only was any news posted on the forums prior to the website itself (in some cases, weeks prior..), but in addition to that, both the website and the actual programming booklet lacked certain rules, regulations, and even programming information.. Even I had trouble finding the cosplay photoshoot schedule promptly, and I log on pretty often.


    Not only was there a lack of communication with staff (which has already been addressed), but it extended to the attendees as well due to the inaccessability of the information. Not everyone has a facebook, twitter, nor the time to search the forums and when attendees can't even refer to the official website for every rule, that's a problem, and this doesn't just go for the game room bag check, but the issue with the main programming line-up as well... Although I know the Hyatt intervened, it didn't surprise me when seeing the sheer madness during the FLOW concert line-up as practically no one knew about the new rule in the first place...

  6. Personally, I don't like them, even in casual settings.. xD *Shrugs shoulders* But especially at ACen. Like OtakuAngel said, when you spend months on a certain outfit, or find that certain cosplayer and want nothing more than that perfect shot, it's really irritating to have someone come and ruin that for you just for giggles. And even when its just joking around and taking pictures with my friends.. it just irks me when I go through them later, just to see someone purposely diverting attention in the picture.. Maybe I'm just persnickety, but I'm not a fan of photobombs one bit! xD I mean, when it's an accident, it's an accident, and with friends, sure, go ahead.. but with people you don't know, I feel it's pretty rude. ^^; *Shrugs*

  7. Hehe....is it bad that I've never even heard of Blue Exorcist? Then again, I've been trending on watching anime series that are at least ten years old. >_<


    EDIT: Huh...no wonder it'll probably be big - from the looks of it, Blue Exorcist is just a tweaked and repackaged Soul Eater. *sigh*

    >3>;; I've never even heard of it either.. xD *Scratches head* I guess probably due to the genre I typically watch..


    And on the topic of Adult Swim, it seems they've just picked up Durarara!!

  8. =.= I'm with Kasin.. I'm sure we can all anonymously agree (including those that are 4channers..) that 4chan is the garbage pit of the internet.. Nothing posted there can truly be taken seriousy, and it does nothing other than show there are people out there who live simply for the purpose of being an absulote arse. And not just any arse, a cowardly one.. Probably the reason I hate 4chan the most. You're already hiding behind a wall when you post on the internet, and now even your online persona is hidden as well? People go on there bashing others, when they don't even have the manparts to show their own name, let alone their face.. Uggghhhh...

  9. I don't like the idea of Gold and Silver memberships, even if you do get a lot for the price. I'll pass but I hope everyone who goes has fun!

    @.@;; I'm with you.. You can't even go to signings without one of those memberships... really pricey for a first year con.. T~T *Passing* But indeed! have fun, and tell us all how it goes!! I'm really curious and hope it's a total success! ^.^

  10. :thumbup:


    I LOL'd so hard during an autograph session when a guy posing with Stephenie Sheh pulled out a sign that said "You lost The Game," and Spike Spencer didn't know what The Game was, so Stephenie was trying to explain it and halfway through he said, "Aaand I just lost interest."


    The Game was funny for a few weeks. Not anymore. Please stop relying on it for skits/screaming it in the middle of the room/etc etc.

    =.= And.. seriously.. I could've sworn the Game ended.. *Sigh* It's seriously a joke that's overplayed.. Same thing with the whole "Pasta" chant. We get it, Italy likes pasta. Okay. I swear, that was overplayed almost as soon as it started... And half the time we couldn't even hear the MC's because of it.. Really? xD But meh... I guarantee we'll be hearing it again next ACen.. @_@

  11. Here's my suggestion.


    We need a quality control panel that judges acts on their content. It needs to be a variety hour of sorts, with singing, dancing, comedy, and what have you. A mixed bag of talents, with which we can sit back and enjoy. And this panel will personally approve each skit/act as it is performed in front of them prior to the performance. Using this criteria, I'm sure only the best of the best would get into the masquerade.

    This.. I agree with this so so so much.. Not only will it limit performances to some of the best from the midwest, but it should also help with.. audio problems..


    This has been an ongoing gripe of mine since my first ACen.. sitting through skit after skit without understanding a word from the audio clip played. You can have an hilarious skit that's downplayed by this factor alone, and often it happens. It just frustrating when you're focusing more on trying to hear what's being said...than the content actually being said.. Aigoo..

  12. I believe this could work with the video rooms, definitely, but like Josh said.. as they already check, there's little to no point of it..And as for other events that are age required..and the attendance is very high to get in.. The only solution I see is staffers buckling down when looking at these ID's, and maybe even having more man power to do so in a timely manner. I think you mentioned yourself, Kokoro, how some barely looked at ID's while people entered a panel.. Imagine the leverage that would give someone knowing they can look at a color coded badge and have even more of a reason to shrug it off. And I'm not downplaying any staffer or anything like that, when you have a great amount of people that you're trying to get in as quickly as possible, and after working what could've been the entire day, it's natural to grow tired, and to let people slip by... and I would imagine having badges color-coded would raise the chances of that happening.


    Not only this, but like Fluffykins said, at a convention with so many people, there are bound to be predators. You hear such a case at a convention every year, let's not make ACen one of them.. Just as we all came to the general consensus that a good chunk of our congoing population is STUPID, it is safe to say with the rise of our population, so has the rise in creepers as well.. so let's not make our younger ACenners an easier target.. I have to agree with Unka Josh and daegan, with many people 30 and under the lines of age are visually blurred.. I deal with this almost daily, with people mistaking my little sister to be 21..and me as her little tag along.. =.= Likewise, I have been in the position of dealing with people who specifically target me, thinking I'm underage. "Look at you.. so cute.. You're a what..freshman in highschool? What's you're name, sweet thing?" "In college.." "Oh.. You have a nice day..." <---- <_< True story...


    I'm starting to ramble on now, and I know this factor was nitpicked back and forth, but it shouldn't be something just shrugged off. Aiyah.. Call it beating a dead horse, but having been in the position of someone targeted for that reason several times..(One being my first ACen.. =.=) I just would hate to see ACen make things easier for those who seek out minors. There are so many out there who look beyond their age, and the line between 16, 17 and 18 has always been a thin one.. So for the sake of those, lets please not make them an easy hunt?

  13. I'm kind of sad to see them go.. *Not afraid to say it* Sure, they tore apart a few series, but how many of us wouldn't even be into the anime fandom if it weren't for the company initially exposing us to it in the first place?


    I honestly hope all goes well in their trial tomorrow. And for those who are happy to see them go.. Well, I'm sorry their english renditions and edits butchered your beloved series, but is that reason enough to want 200+ employees to now go jobless? If you felt this way due to their witholding of royalties from TV Tokyo and NAS, fine, but saying they should go under for Americanizing a few series, changing a few names and censoring anything rated above TV-Y? Come on.. Was what they did right from the otaku standpoint? No.. ._. But I still feel irked when I hear people deem this worthy of unemployment for hundreds..

  14. Well, ACen did host a Charity Ball a few years back, ending in 2009 or so, and it seems such an event won't be returning for one reason or another.. Here's a thread I found digging up this topic from a few months back.. Meep!


    In any case, while we can't have a "Charity" event per se, I think an additional formal dance would be perfect, and what better idea would there be than making it a Prom, especially for all those poor kids that have to make the decision between their own prom and ACen each year. Looking back on it, I would've rather had mine at ACen anyday~ So all in all, I think this would be a wonderful event! I think like a prom, it should be formal! The definition of semi-formal gets kind of skewed in my opinion (for all those who consider a dress shirt and jeans as such.. >3>;;), so keeping it formal would ensure the prom-like atmosphere.


    Also, while I never enjoyed the king and queen tradition of your typical high school prom, like iHane, I feel this would work at ACen as we wouldn't have that popularity bias. The award could possibly go to simply the best dressed couple, or the neatest cosplay.. or.. heck, people can vote for others for whatever reason they choose! Why make it a character or cosplay contest? I dunno, those are just my thoughts on the matter! ^^;;


    But anyhow, I absolutely love love love this idea!

  15. When they pick up their badge. Of course this means they would have to eliminate mailing badges. But like I said before, the badge doesn't mean you still don't need your ID for adult programming. So say if someone has a 18+ badge trying to get into the Yaoi panel, and the IRT asks to see ID but they don't have it, or even worse it says they're 17, they won't be allowed in, but will also have a lot of explaining to do about why they have 18+ badge and possibly have the badge taken away for the weekend or given a 17&under badge.


    I feel like with this.. Eliminating badge mailing would be absolutely out of question, especially with registration pressing con-goers to make sure they choose the mailing options this upcoming year. Not only this, but from my experience with any 16+ or 18+ panel, staffers barely look at the ID, a quick glance and you're in with some cases. I just feel like that this is something that just doesn't seem plausible with the amount of attendees we have. Lets say this is inacted for the Soap Bubble. Out of the 7,500 people that went this year, let's say only 4000 we're over the age of 18. That's 4,000 ID's of different types and different states that would need to throughly be checked as people are entering. Why throughly? Because if these kids really want to get into the Soap Bubble, they WILL have a fake ID (Heck, a good 2/3rds of my highschool had one). For staff, allowing people in would essentially be turned into the job of a bouncer, and God knows how many bouncers have to go through 4,000 people in the allotted time of only a few hours.


    And even without the likelyhood of having fake identification, in comparison to other 18+ panels, just the sheer amount of attendees at the SOAP bubble will be over-whelming to the staff who hold this position. I say this as I've seen panels with only 100ish attendees where staff already seemed overwhelmed, focus shifted into getting people into the event timely, and know people who've easily slipped past with a license that clearly showed they were only 17.

  16. Close Knitchick. It's Moonlight Densetsu. But the scary thing is that I just queued up a bunch of Sailor Moon songs... and it turns out I can still karaoke them >.>;


    And to keep it on topic... I like the "extended karaoke" type ideas. Adding a couple programming staff to the karaoke group or something. That way we could have a room dedicated to karaoke for most of the convention. Maybe from like 8pm-2am each night of the con the karaoke room would be open. Like 12am-2am each night would be open mic, anything can be sung. Then from 8pm-12am each night there could be a programming schedule. Maybe American top40 for a couple hours, jpop for a couple hours, jrock for a couple hours.


    Also possibly have a block of time for english anime songs(The Oasis song from Higashi no Eden, John Sykes song from Black Heaven, Deadman Wonderland's op, etc). And another block for english dub versions of japanese songs. If you try to cater to each type of fan of karaoke, may as well attempt to be all-inclusive if possible. I know that personally I would leave if someone started singing the english version of Sobakasu from Kenshin, or the Yu Yu Hakusho op(or the english version of Hikari from Kingdom Hearts for that matter) because I'm an "elitist purist" who doesn't like English versions. But that doesn't mean that people who like those songs should be excluded, or bashed in a gripes thread.



    Sorry if my thoughts are fragmented, but I just woke up >.<

    Ahhhh~ A constructive comment! 0w0 I like this idea so very much! In my previous years at Karaoke, and in passing through this one, I have to agree with the OP in the sense that Japanese-oriented music was.. well, lacking. I'm anything but an elitist, but I did noticice, coming from my friends, their surprise in searching through the catelog to find almost only English-language and mainstream song choices. And while it has been said to bring your own lyrics and music if wanted.. That was something that seemed to be left unknown until you got there.. Not only that, but I feel preparing for it takes away from that karaoke-aspect, ne? There's just a different experience between practicing and prepping for a song as opposed to that feeling of, "OHHH! They have this song?!" and singing your heart out..however awful you may be. xD *Loves that experience* This isn't to say anything was wrong with the music choice at hand, but it would be nice to have that Anime twist to the music catelog, and this idea of having genre blocks seems to be a great plan in terms of catering to everyone! That way, like Zilv says.. if you don't like it, leave, and come back later when the teenieboppers are done! ^w^

  17. There was at least one service dog at ACen this year because i saw it. As a public place that offers good services for the disabled and special needs patrons, dogs at ACen are going to happen anyway.

    Eep! Aigoo, this I completely understand! @.@ I usually see one myself every year.. I'm just speaking in terms of groups.. If it's for servicing others, then it can't be helped of course! My only point was that there has to be a better solution as opposed to having additional dogs run through the site, as even that could be a risk to others..(God only knows, if you're cynophobic.. @___@; )

  18. Thank you KnitChick.. Honestly, I feel like this blame game is based on pretty biased opinions, and that goes for both those against and in favor of the dances, raves, etc. No matter what, we can't pin point this issue on one element of a con, especially when it's reaching 25,000 attendants.. Not only this, but I don't think this thread was created to say, "Hey, let's judge and blame certain events," as much as it was simply asking for solutions to better the situation. Although the rise in attendants means a rise in stupidity, trying to simply chop out a piece of our con's population doesn't seem like a feasible fix, IMO. While some elitists feel that the rise in population and lack of anime oriented events is drawing in the wrong crowd..at the end of the weekend, we are all paying customers. Everyone has the right to attend ACen for whatever reason, and that reason doesn't make them any less of a congoer than anyone else. Now.. for those who simply show up to party.. that's another issue..


    So.. back onto that.. I honestly don't believe a K-9 unit would be the right way to go about it.. While I have read, and do see the benefits and assitance it would help in authorities' pin-pointing drug use, at the same time it could prove to be a health risk to others.. I understand choosing what seems to be the greater good, but jeapordizing someone's health, even for the sake of an entire con, simply doesn't seem right to me. I say this as someone with a cousin with severe canine allergies. Owning a dog myself, she would literally go into a state of anaphylactic shock if I even came in contact with her, simply from dander.. While this is probably an extreme case, for some it could be a reality, and I would hate to see even the slightest allergy sufferers have to endure the issue of having several dogs on site.


    Rather than a K-9 unit, if possible, I think simply having more officers patrolling the vicinity in general would help a great deal. Some drug use is very obvious and.. well, stupid people love to make their high known. Speaking for myself, I noticed a good 5 incidents this weekend where drug use was evident, and I regret not reporting it.. I just think that if we all stepped in ourselves to report these people, in addition to having more authority taking action on the scene, this would not only reduce the number of dilenquents running out and about the Hyatt, but hopefully would strike fear into those who are tempted as well. We should all be members of our own neighboorhood watch in a sense, and rather than coming here to gripe about it, or spread our con horror stories *Guilty of this*.... it would be alot more beneficial to all if we simply reported these things to the RPD as they happened. As congoers, we should take the responsibility onto ourselves as well. With dilenquents knowing that not only IRT will report them, but even the person simply standing nearby, it will at least make them think twice about the next ignorant decision they make.

  19. By this point, most of the posts seem to be repeating the same old sentiments, e.g. "make this a dry con," "get rid of the raves-- they have nothing to do with anime," "don't get rid of the raves, the draw in more people (and therefore more money) to the con," and other similar ideas about drastically changing the types of events offered and/or location of the convention.


    sadly, the most accurate opinions posted in this thread are also the bleakest: that you can't fix stupid, and that no matter what the con organizers and IRT do, booze will get into the con (not to say that booze consumption is the root of all evil-- people consume it differently and with varying levels of responsibility). you can't please all of the otaku all of the time, and eliminating/not eliminating booze/certain events is going to leave a large portion of congoers dissatisfied.


    what needs to be done, IMO, is to have an increase in the amount of security people watching the con, and a change in their operations/procedures. this is not to say that IRT is doing a poor job or acting inappropriately; i have heard TONS of accounts of IRT being great and helpful and accommodating, and i have also heard a handful of less-than-pleasant stories. furthermore, i will admit that i have no idea how the IRT are recruited, trained, or organized. i realize that there may not be enough money to bring more people on and, additionally, there may be no way for the con admins to control how IRT acts-- IRT people are only human, after all. what is possible, however, is to crack down on how different areas of the con are policed, and how misbehavior is punished. perhaps working closely with the rosemont police/hotel security will give IRT more authority and allow them to strike fear into the hearts of evildoers. as mentioned above, offering a finite amount of entrance tickets may reduce line congestion and allow IRT to focus their energy elsewhere. similarly, something as simple as roping off line areas may also cut down some of the craziness and all-over-the-place-ness of the lines. having an IRT team for each of the nearby, super-congested hotels might also help to control the madness in common areas outside of the main convention center area.


    again, i know that money and bodies are limited and that all of these suggestions might have already been taken into consideration by IRT. as someone (maybe rondo?) said above, the onus is on each of us to help keep things in line. it's as simple as that. in a sense, everybody needs to be on IRT and work diligently to report crappy behavior. if all of us keep the hotel areas under control, then IRT will be free to monitor the panel/programming areas.


    This. This. This, this , this. It was one of the initial points I had that got lost in the divergence from the topic.. @_@ I can't help but to agree 150%. I also wish that IRT could have greater funding.. I know, I know, this is a volunteer-based convention, but I do feel like that with a greater incentive, more congoers would be willing to devote their time and join IRT. And like you stated, we should all be apart of IRT.. No matter what, whether you blame it on the booze or the events, the heart of the problem is sheer stupidity.. While people can argue that since the dawn of the dances or certain events, dilenquency has risen.. so has the number of attendees, and that's something that's bound to happen as the fandom in general booms.. Since my first ACen just 6 years ago, the attendance has more than doubled, so naturally, this is no surprise.. and the boom in attendance this year alone has caused trouble throughout the entire con, so it was easy to guess that ill-moral behavior would be a greater issue as well.. I say we devote funding to IRT, up the incentive to join, and just like P-bear says, take the initiative ourselves to report any incident we see... And getting the police more-so involved in well should help a good ten-fold.. @___@ (I can't tell you how frustrating it is to report a problem to IRT, only to be told to take it up to the RPD on my own.. a previous year's experience..)

  20. I am one of those people who have issue with Venture Bros. panels and Disney cosplays. Now Ive come to terms that while I dont really like those things at an anime convention such goes life if thats what the attendees want such goes life, I dont have to attend the photoshoots or panels myself. With that being said none of those items cause close to the disruption that the Soap Bubble does. As has been said before this post the SoapBubble does bring in an element that really has no interest in anything that ACen promotes. I think we can also agree that the SoapBubble is the biggest magnet for the crowd that is causing so much of the problems. With the soapbubble gone, it would remove ACen's focus on "NightLife" and discourage many of the parties and craziness that the con is dealing with right now.

    Again, as someone who attends the rave, I don't believe the heart of the issue is the SoapBubble itself. However, I am only one person speaking in favor of some of the 7,500 that attended this year. Even so, I simply believe that you cannot say that 1/3 of the convention's population this year was apart of the madness.


    Not only this, but interms of promoting the japanese market, each year the Bubble brings famous DJs from Japan itself. While this may not matter much to some, I know many others who go simply for a chance to hear some of their favorite DJs live.


    All in all, I believe one of the best solutions for this problem was stated before. Having a price on the dances, for liability reasons, would essentially aid in paying back any damages caused. @.@ I'm sure those dying to go wouldn't mind paying $5 or $10 more...

  21. Before I go into this let me say I have never attended the soap bubble nor will I ever attend a soap bubble. The Soap Bubble has been an aggreavation for me each of my three years of attendance just due to the madness it causes outside the con in lines of people that odds are will never make it to the event itself.


    The events mentioned of people half naked in the game room or people pouring through the halls of the executive wing could easily be stopped if we didn't have to have IRT babysitting the children in the soap bubble or its lines.

    Basically I think the con has grown to big for events such as this and really needs to refocus the man power and money else where.


    Last time I checked ACen was an anime and game convention. Even condidering the Vocaloids, I have to ask what does the Soap Bubble have to do with either of those things?? The con changes during Saturday night, things go on that really shouldn't happen in a public place. I know coming in from a panel I was "greeted" by a guy wearing nothing more then makeup and a thong.. Kinda coincidental that this stuff goes on only during the Soap Bubble...


    Then IRT would be patrolling and babysitting every room party, wouldn't they? I think that no matter what, more man power is needed, period. However, that can't be helped.. @_@ ACen is against sponorship after all.


    xD Anywho, although ACen is an anime and manga convention, by using that point as a valid argument, wouldn't that justify getting rid of all elements of the con which aren't anime and manga centralized? I feel like complaints like these go along with those who gripe about Disney cosplays or the Venture Bros. Panel.. Even the majority of guests this year weren't apart of the anime or manga industry, so should we no longer invite them? While this is an anime convention, ACen isn't simply about japanese art and media (which events other than the Soap Bubble have shown), and I don't know of a major anime-oriented convention yet that limits itself in such a manner. But anyway.. I'll end that there before I diverge any further from the topic at hand.. xD

  22. The dance/rave and related behavior is by far our biggest point of liability and a large drain on staff resources IMHO. Running the event causes damages basically every year. It's impossible to have enough staff to watch everywhere all the time. A far easier method is just to use the added cost to offset the liability of damages.





    An increase in room parties is probable, but a better scenario. Because any damages to the room are directly accountable to the people staying in the room, not ACen. And all of the freed up IRT staff could instead patrol the halls instead of doing line control. It's also less likely to result in very crazy behavior in a room with a few people, than being egged on in a giant crowd at a rave, etc. Maybe set up a security camera watching the fishbowl side at least of the hotel? That way we can pin stupid behavior on a specific room.


    Even the vodka bottle breaking the Fishbowl glass technically probably isn't ACen's liability. But I assume we pay as a goodwill measure lest we lose the ability to come back to the Hyatt next year. Which would be a major disaster for the convention.


    IMHO the dance and rave are ancillary perks to the convention. As our home page states "The Midwest Anime and Manga Convention" -- we should focus on the main reason for the convention. I'm not saying to totally eliminate them, but if we did get rid of the rave/dance entirely, that would go a long ways towards solving our night time programming issues as well. They may be "popular" -- but much like Adult Swim grew their audience away from anime by changing the type of programming they aired, ACen grows their audience towards a more problematic crowd by holding these events. And unfortunately at a certain point it IS better for the con overall to tamp down on them than let people run around ruining the reputation of the con.


    Let me put it this way: Which is more important to you? Having a convention for anime/manga and other alt-culture hobbies? Or having us lose use of the Hyatt due to holding a dance/rave that draws in a bunch of delinquents that break stuff and get us kicked out? It would basically destroy ACen as we know it -- we would have to make drastic changes like capping attendance at a much lower level, or close earlier, etc.

    Honestly, I kind of feel like these kinds of points sheerly based on opinion, and I will admit that goes the same for my own. As someone who attends the Soap Bubble yearly, within the dance itself, things were rather calm and not as wild as portrayed. On the contrary, the line itself was the heart of most problems, with many people who were drunk, and going wild and out with no intention of actually getting into the rave itself. No matter what, ACen seems to have turned into a party hotspot, and you can't pit all of it onto the Soap Bubble, and do you honestly think with more room parties, the damages will stay limited to the rooms? Throughout the HYATT Saturday night (Or early Sunday morning), I saw people coming out half naked and drunk from everywhere, not simply the Soap Bubble. There were people literally pouring out of a room in the Executive Wing followed by an cloud of smoke that was clearly from weed, people casually asking each other for ecstasy near the Go rooms, and don't get me started on the man screaming about his b*ner wearing nothing but boxers near the game room.. Compaired to what I saw outside the ballroom that night, the rave was pretty suttle.. =.=


    All and all, why some may argue that the rave brings the "wrong" type of attendees, I don't find it fair to group the entire population of con-goers into this category. Like stated before, as this is an underage rave, a large amount of the crowd within the rave itself is CLEARLY underage. Everyone there isn't getting intoxicated, and everyone who attends doesn't do so TO get intoxicated. Not only this, but the rave isn't the only thing that has caused ACen slowly to diverge from it's anime and manga roots. Call it the times, but the fandom has shifted significantly over the years, and we as a whole should all be willing to support it. To say that the dances alone will eventually destroy ACen is a step too far in my opinion..


    While there are a number of delinquents who do attend it, no matter what, as the number of attendance grows so will the stupidity amongst our population...