Gabichox, on 21 May 2013 - 07:13 PM, said:
I'm sorry but you're missing the entire point of my posts completely and I cannot fathom some of the responses here.
I don't care if people are going from room to room. That was never my issue.
I care about people shouting to each other from the 4th floor to the 5th floor. [Literally loitering there and having a shout fest] I care about people throwing food at some random person's door and screaming down the hallways at the top of their lungs. I care about the constant fighting and profanities from a very public break up. I also care about people vomiting in front of a young girl and her mom in the lobby because they were so smashed at 9pm. The noise and craziness of the hotels aren't what they were before and we really need to stop this "it is how it is" attitude. It isn't just some simple room party atmosphere anymore. It's out of control and it's embarrassing to the con. It's also against the hotel's rules and they specifically asked for noise levels to be kept down. The hotel staff seemed to have more of a presence on Saturday night at least. There were also cops there. My whole point was guys can we seriously grow up a bit and stop enabling people to act how they want for no reason other than "that's how ACen is". [or rather, has become]
Firstly, regarding the shouting from the two floors, the only way to curb that is to get hotel staff and tell them about that. Or you can go up to the people and straight up tell them, "Hey you're being a nusences, either stop or I'm getting management to remove you from here! You're disturbing the peace." The best thing though is just to go and get the staff on them. If it's a fight then the hotel has the right to remove them if they are causing disorderly conduct, I believe. You cannot control people, most certainly when there is a large amount of emotions at hand, as in the case with the break up. The only thing you can do is go to the main desk, or call them, and say, "Hey there are these people on Floor x that are making a racket, can you come up and control this."
Again not much you can do to stop people from getting smashed. I certainly want to recommend a hotel booze check, and certain quanities of drink can be brought in and only that much. If a person gets smashed, the only thing again to do is to go and get the cops and the front desk and report it. If the behavior is that bad then the hotel has a right to throw the people out. This isn't a case of enabling, this is a case of culture where, to be honest, if one is brought up to behave in public they will, in a lot of cases people who are getting smashed are people that have either very strict home lives and they want to be "adult" so they get blitzed here at ACen. The con staff can only do so much, you have to report this behavior while it's happening for them to do things about it. Honestly the best recourse to the hotel problem is, one request that your room be in an area away from the main floors, IE executive suites or other areas of the like. Two is if you can't do that and you see a problem report it outright to staff, IRT, and the hotel management.
Let me also mention again that there was a wedding booked at the Embassy. Maybe they should've moved further away from the con if the noise bothered them or something IDK I mean they should totally expect this kind of thing or something.
Weddings will be booked regardless, the only thing to do in that case is for the hotel to find a way to block the wedding group from the con group.
Washu Takahashi understood me at least. What I meant was take out general gatherings that encompass too broad of things when there are already many smaller gatherings for it and the series under it. I suppose Nintendo was a sensitive example to use. It has nothing to do with if something is related to Japan [when did I even say that???] And please do not turn this into a "accept others likes and dislikes!" thing because that has nothing to do with it. I pointed out memes and dance parties because there wasn't even a thread for it. That's all.
Regarding general gatherings. In some cases it's easier to do a general then to set up a bunch of smaller ones due to the number of groups that we get. This year alone there was three pages of gatherings. Having a "Nintendo" group saves up time for other groups to take pictures. I didn't see any "Link" or "Mario" gatherings in the book, and there's the issue. In a large gathering you can have smaller shots taken since all the groups are there. I guess I can say think of it from the organizers view, would you rather organize one big group with pictures taken for smaller things, or spend all day getting the smaller groups together for different times that could run counter to peoples plans. Sadly memes are something that has become common now, although I hear more about them at like C2E2 then ACen.