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Posted 21 July 2011 - 11:57 PM

So yes Borders is now leaving us, meaning we will only have barns and noble as our lone book store, save for Half Price Books. Does anyone else thinks this sucks?

They're selling the books off as of 22 of this month.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 12:29 AM

This is a real unfortunate closing. Most people are likely going to have to look online for their books these days besides the other book stores you mentioned. Rough market/economy unfortunately. :(
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 01:24 AM

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 01:29 AM

Got an e-mail as the clock struck midnight. I's like watching your childhood friend die, except hopefully no-one is dying but 1000's of people are losing their jobs.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 05:51 AM

Yeah, it really does bite. Can't say I didn't see it coming. I'm going to head to my nearest location to see if I can be rebursed on a few items I pre-ordered online that were suppose to come out before the end of August which were recently pushed back.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 07:14 AM

Another place I worked for in the past closes (#4). It was inevitable though as many people had stopped visiting the B&M bookstores and is now doing their shopping online. Hard to say how long Barnes & Noble can keep it up but they typically always seemed more busy in comparison.

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 12:04 PM

View Postrondo, on 22 July 2011 - 07:14 AM, said:

Another place I worked for in the past closes (#4). It was inevitable though as many people had stopped visiting the B&M bookstores and is now doing their shopping online. Hard to say how long Barnes & Noble can keep it up but they typically always seemed more busy in comparison.



I think B&N will be fine. They have their hands in the ebook market, which is always why I think Borders failed. You need to keep up with the times.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 01:53 PM

Seriously pisses me off. To me E-books are stupid, I quite like the pile of books stacking up on my room.

And there is no fun in browsing books online. Not online is browsing online annoying, I rather see, feel and hold something in my own hands beffore buying it. While I can understand ordering a few things online I could never do my full shoping online.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 05:20 PM

It kinda sucks, but as of now, their closing sales...aren't that great. At least near me, most books are ten percent off, mangas are 20 percent off...I got a better deal when they were open when they gave me "30% off one item" and related deals. But now I feel it sucks because I can't compare Border's and B&N's prices. :P And I agree Keans I don't like browsing books online...I like holding them and reading the text. That itself tells me if I want the book. But I hope with Borders closing B&N doesn't monopolize the prices and raise them because they don't have much competition.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 06:28 PM

I liked the local Borders more than the B&N. <_< I also agree that B&N seems better at staying with the market. When I made my book, I tried submitting it B&N and Borders after Amazon, but Borders didn't have anything available. It's too bad though, their store here is bigger and more comfortable than B&N. :(

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Posted 22 July 2011 - 10:14 PM

View PostKeans, on 22 July 2011 - 01:53 PM, said:

Seriously pisses me off. To me E-books are stupid, I quite like the pile of books stacking up on my room.

And there is no fun in browsing books online. Not online is browsing online annoying, I rather see, feel and hold something in my own hands beffore buying it. While I can understand ordering a few things online I could never do my full shoping online.


Oh, I agree 100%. I love to have physical copies of things I love. Hell, I even go out and buy CDs of artists I really love rather than digital dloads from Amazon. It makes me sad that at the rate current things are trending with anime, is they're gonna be released online/digital format only. I can see Funi releasing series straight to Netflix/Hulu/iTunes in a few years.
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 10:44 PM

I was a bit optimistic that Borders would be able to pull through, but apparently not, and it is rather sad. Whenever I got the coupons via email, I would always think to myself how Borders would be able to turn a profit when taking up to 40% off their retail prices, and apparently they aren't able to. I preferred their stores to Barnes and Noble, they just felt more homely. I'm going to stop by one of their stores tomorrow.

I'm also one of those who still hasn't jumped onto the E-reader bandwagon. Or the digital-download bandwagon... And I don't see myself doing it anytime soon...
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Posted 22 July 2011 - 11:47 PM

View PostKirbyFanOne, on 22 July 2011 - 01:29 AM, said:

Got an e-mail as the clock struck midnight. I's like watching your childhood friend die, except hopefully no-one is dying but 1000's of people are losing their jobs.



And what about the thousands of people who lost their jobs BECAUSE of Borders.

Of course, people cried for them and still went to Borders.

Now people who cry for Borders STILL order from Amazon.

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 12:26 AM

View PostMatt PNiewski, on 22 July 2011 - 11:47 PM, said:

Capitalism is a fickle very nice lady.


Capitalism isn't too far off of cannibalism. They just like to call them "mergers" because "consumption" doesn't sound very professional on a resume.
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Posted 23 July 2011 - 08:40 AM

View PostKeans, on 22 July 2011 - 01:53 PM, said:

Seriously pisses me off. To me E-books are stupid, I quite like the pile of books stacking up on my room.

And there is no fun in browsing books online. Not online is browsing online annoying, I rather see, feel and hold something in my own hands beffore buying it. While I can understand ordering a few things online I could never do my full shoping online.


E-books aren't for everybody. I know other folks who don't like them/see the point in them.

Then there are folks like my husband - he used to dislike reading books unless they're graphic novels, mangas, or really good novels worth his time. (And he's particular about those, too.) Then, thanks to a white-elephant Chistmas gift game we played with my family over the holidays, he got an Amazon Kindle. I never believed he'd take to reading off of that so quickly. After a while, it turned out that the reason he never really took up reading actual books, is because seeing how far he needed to go to finish the book would turn him off from doing it. (Yeah, he's got ADHD. It's worn down over the years, but it still manifests in things like this.) Now he loves tracking down novels and books he's heard about and reading them in E-book format.

Now, that being said, would using E-book sales have helped Borders at all? Maybe, maybe not. At this point, I don't think we'll ever know.
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Posted 23 July 2011 - 11:54 AM

There's still Barns & Noble.
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Posted 23 July 2011 - 03:33 PM

Stopped by my Borders today and nothing too interesting. I don't usually buy manga, but if it gets to about 50% off or more I'll pick a few up. The one book I was looking for they didn't have too :/

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 05:38 PM

I am very sad that Border's is closing. I always go crazy when I go there. I spend money like mad on books and dvd's. Now I have no place to go to do that. I know have to buy my books online. I don't want to go the kindle route. I prefer to have a book in my hand and turn its pages with my fingers, rather than hold a big device in my and and turn the page with just the press of a button with my finger.
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Posted 23 July 2011 - 08:01 PM

2011: With the closing of Borders all across the world, publishing companies lossed one of thier major distributors cuasing a decrease in the publication of books.

2012: Shortly following, the company whom owned Border also closes down their Walden Books branch due to bankruptcy

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Posted 23 July 2011 - 08:33 PM

Teko please tell me that was all original material. Please be original!
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Posted 24 July 2011 - 02:45 PM

Sad day for my pocketbooks.... I'm going to be broke off of the sales ^_^
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Posted 24 July 2011 - 08:23 PM

View PostTekoMuto, on 23 July 2011 - 08:01 PM, said:

Wut


What? I....don't know what to say.

Sad to see Borders closing, especially all of them. They had a better variety than B and N and it was easier to buy manga than order it online, due to my mail issues.

Man now I have to order Sumomomo online and Wandering son :(
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Posted 25 July 2011 - 07:50 AM

View PostGITS SAC Motoko, on 22 July 2011 - 05:20 PM, said:

It kinda sucks, but as of now, their closing sales...aren't that great. At least near me, most books are ten percent off, mangas are 20 percent off...I got a better deal when they were open when they gave me "30% off one item" and related deals. But now I feel it sucks because I can't compare Border's and B&N's prices. :P And I agree Keans I don't like browsing books online...I like holding them and reading the text. That itself tells me if I want the book. But I hope with Borders closing B&N doesn't monopolize the prices and raise them because they don't have much competition.


It is pretty typical for the beginning of a liquidation. B&N can't really raise prices at all since both them and Borders prices always started at MSRP/cover price. The difference is how much of a discount they offer you.

I find that B&N cannot lighten their discounts because they will still have it hard while trying to compete with online sales. If their fortune doesn't turn for the better, they will probably try again to find someone to purchase the company.

I bought so much manga using the 30/40/50% off coupons.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 11:22 PM

I heard B&N is having problems too, just not on the scale of Boarders. While Boarders was mismanaged for years, they also did not jump on the digital band wagon, witch hurt them even more. After a bad Paypal experience(I am still cleaning up after this), I prefer to buy my books in person. I can for see B&N ending up the same way in the not so near future, with people downloading more & more.I also blame people like author Michelle Sinclair Colman. Her article on the closing of her local Boarders is a classic example of typical soccer Mom abuse of any giving store & also what I call bad parenting. I don't under stand how some like that can write children's books. She is only part of the problem. I feel bad for all the people who are loosing their jobs in an already crappy economy. If any one is interested in reading that said article, here it is.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 05:12 AM

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Teko please tell me that was all original material. Please be original!

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 05:50 AM

View PostNeko_master_Luna, on 25 July 2011 - 11:22 PM, said:

I heard B&N is having problems too, just not on the scale of Boarders. While Boarders was mismanaged for years, they also did not jump on the digital band wagon, witch hurt them even more. After a bad Paypal experience(I am still cleaning up after this), I prefer to buy my books in person. I can for see B&N ending up the same way in the not so near future, with people downloading more & more.I also blame people like author Michelle Sinclair Colman. Her article on the closing of her local Boarders is a classic example of typical soccer Mom abuse of any giving store & also what I call bad parenting. I don't under stand how some like that can write children's books. She is only part of the problem. I feel bad for all the people who are loosing their jobs in an already crappy economy. If any one is interested in reading that said article, here it is.

http://chappaqua.pat...or-our-children

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 12:37 PM

Sad sad day :/
I didn't know that ALL the borders stores would be closing. I thought it was only a few. Granted I only shop at Half Priced Books [I only read classics lol and they have old versions of books] I used to love going to borders to browse their manga section. Plus they had an awesome cd/dvd selection.
I hope B&N doesn't go out of business as well. That would be a major blow to book lovers DX

Even if people say that it isn't the fault of ebooks/tablets/what have you, I still can't help but blame them a little. Books are the only things in this world that shouldn't be digital :/
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 01:38 PM

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yup that was original, i don't take kindly to plagarism ;3


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Posted 26 July 2011 - 02:48 PM

View PostGabichox, on 26 July 2011 - 12:37 PM, said:

Sad sad day :/
I didn't know that ALL the borders stores would be closing. I thought it was only a few. Granted I only shop at Half Priced Books [I only read classics lol and they have old versions of books] I used to love going to borders to browse their manga section. Plus they had an awesome cd/dvd selection.
I hope B&N doesn't go out of business as well. That would be a major blow to book lovers DX

Initially it was going to be just a select few stores closing, but last week they apparently came to the conclusion (not sure if it was against their will or not) that the restructuring plan they had come up with was no longer going to be viable. Liquidation is now the only avenue left.

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Even if people say that it isn't the fault of ebooks/tablets/what have you, I still can't help but blame them a little. Books are the only things in this world that shouldn't be digital :/

Actually I have no doubt that those played a factor. There was more to the situation than that of course, but the digital migration didn't help. Borders unfortunately didn't jump on the bandwagon quickly enough. While B&N isn't necessarily in great shape, they are much better off than Borders was.
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 03:23 PM

View Postwrexness, on 26 July 2011 - 02:48 PM, said:

Initially it was going to be just a select few stores closing, but last week they apparently came to the conclusion (not sure if it was against their will or not) that the restructuring plan they had come up with was no longer going to be viable. Liquidation is now the only avenue left.


The buyout offer failed as they believed the company doing the buyout was not intending on trying to bring Borders back up to a serviceable state as opposed to milking what was left of the company.

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