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Criana
post Jul 30 2008, 04:57 PM
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Hello,

My friend and I are planning on cosplaying as Kosmos and T-elos from Xenosaga. But we have no idea on how to make the armor. blink.gif
So were asking our fellow cosplayers for armor creation help. We're trying to find the most light weight material possible because we don't want any wardrobe malfunction. So, thank you! We appreciate any comments that will help.

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post Jul 30 2008, 05:15 PM
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~flies in with cape~
ill save you

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sooo
how much cosplay experience do you have
this one will not be easy

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well
once again
i must say pcv or acrylic
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guns are mainly pvc pipe with pvc sheeting
not wonderflex
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the body armor can be done in pvc fabric stretched over a base, pvc sheeting, acrylic sheeting

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on one had better mention fiberglass or poly carbonate
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heavier
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and is more difficult to work with

this project is a high level work
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I <3 Knives. I was wondering what to do for the armor I need to make for my 2010 cosplays.

Anybody know how to make a clear faceshield? I thinking of doing a Moldiver cosplay.


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post Jul 30 2008, 06:30 PM
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Oi, peoples... check out my cosplay guide (link in signature) to see if there's a tutorial in there for you! If not, I'll be happy to look around for some that you guys specifically asked for, hehe. Keep an eye out for an update soon!
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post Jul 30 2008, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE (simonsaz3 @ Jul 31 2008, 12:30 AM) *
Oi, peoples... check out my cosplay guide (link in signature) to see if there's a tutorial in there for you! If not, I'll be happy to look around for some that you guys specifically asked for, hehe. Keep an eye out for an update soon!
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post Jul 30 2008, 09:47 PM
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Foamies (craft foam) is probably the easiest and cheapest material to work with to make armor out of. You can heat shape it too. Another good choice is Wonderflex, but you need to heat it up either with boiling water or a heat gun. You'll also want to get something to form the pieces over so you get uniform pieces.


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post Jul 30 2008, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE (simonsaz3 @ Jul 30 2008, 07:30 PM) *
Oi, peoples... check out my cosplay guide (link in signature) to see if there's a tutorial in there for you! If not, I'll be happy to look around for some that you guys specifically asked for, hehe. Keep an eye out for an update soon!
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There's lots there that'll help with my 2010 cosplays. Sadly I still need to find where to get or how to make a clear face shield like this


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post Jul 30 2008, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE (Criana @ Jul 30 2008, 05:57 PM) *
Hello,

My friend and I are planning on cosplaying as Kosmos and T-elos from Xenosaga. But we have no idea on how to make the armor. blink.gif
So were asking our fellow cosplayers for armor creation help. We're trying to find the most light weight material possible because we don't want any wardrobe malfunction. So, thank you! We appreciate any comments that will help.

http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u235/In...S-MOST-Elos.jpg


hey i have 2 meet up with u guyz some where cuz iam gonna b Chaos (the 3 ep game outfit) and i want some awsome picks of Chaos and Kosmos fighting Teleos


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post Jul 30 2008, 10:35 PM
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QUOTE (Kitsu-chan @ Jul 31 2008, 05:07 AM) *
There's lots there that'll help with my 2010 cosplays. Sadly I still need to find where to get or how to make a clear face shield like this


acrylic sheets


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post Jul 30 2008, 10:46 PM
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QUOTE (princemercury1 @ Jul 30 2008, 11:35 PM) *
acrylic sheets

Thanks. Hopefully between that & the links from simonsaz3 I should be able to manage all mine.

2010 plans are: Kazuma from Scryed, Ronin Warriors (not sure who yet), Moldiver, plus I want to attempt KosMos eventually. I also might need to make a Zero helmet for this year.

Major thanks to both of you.


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post Jul 30 2008, 10:53 PM
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They may be called acrylic sheets but I don't know....but there's clear plastic vinyl (PVC) that JoAnn's sells....(it's the kind of stuff that is used to make some shower curtains) You'd just have to get the thicker stuff and stretch it over the area you need so it doesn't wrinkle and such.


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QUOTE (mens_pocky06 @ Jul 31 2008, 05:53 AM) *
They may be called acrylic sheets but I don't know....but there's clear plastic vinyl (PVC) that JoAnn's sells....(it's the kind of stuff that is used to make some shower curtains) You'd just have to get the thicker stuff and stretch it over the area you need so it doesn't wrinkle and such.

Its also call Plexiglass ^^;;;


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post Jul 30 2008, 10:59 PM
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Actually the acrylic sheets look like they'll work fine for the Zero mask, but I don't know how exactly to shape it yet. I already managed to find somewhere online that sell some for reasonable price. I just have to remember to order gray not black cause you can't see thru the black.


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post Jul 30 2008, 11:05 PM
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Did I mention they are expensive as hell? ^^;;


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post Jul 30 2008, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE (princemercury1 @ Jul 31 2008, 12:05 AM) *
Did I mention they are expensive as hell? ^^;;

I found them for about $7 for a 1ft by 1ft sheet, which is all I'll need. Course I still need to check the shipping.

*Edit* $4.79 for shipping


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post Jul 30 2008, 11:33 PM
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I remember a girl who used those colored plastic file folder thingies glued over plexiglass (polycarbonate is better though) for a visor. I used the same method and got some good results but I dont know how well it would work for something of that size. Oh, and the sheets were heat formed.


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post Jul 30 2008, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE (Kitsu-chan @ Jul 31 2008, 05:20 AM) *
I found them for about $7 for a 1ft by 1ft sheet, which is all I'll need. Course I still need to check the shipping.

*Edit* $4.79 for shipping

Thats not bad at all.
As for cutting I suggest using a jigsaw

Old thread that will most likely help you out.

http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=53939


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post Jul 30 2008, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE (princemercury1 @ Jul 31 2008, 12:36 AM) *
Thats not bad at all.
As for cutting I suggest using a jigsaw

Old thread that will most likely help you out.

http://www.cosplay.com/showthread.php?t=53939

That does help with how to mold it. I can use the back of a wig head to get the curve right. Now I just gotta get the shape down. I figure it'll be oval-ish. Here is a pic of Zero's helmet.

I'm no good at cutting shapes when they have to be curved as well. I'll get one of those folders to use as a test before I do anything permenant.


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post Jul 31 2008, 06:59 AM
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Oh wow! Thanks for all the amazingly awesome comments! We hope to be able to make our 2009 cosplays fantasmic!

@Nichoals/Chaos: Those pictures would be a pretty awesome and epic for sure!

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That really looks like a job for resin-shell armor (the look and finish of resin without the weight of cast resin), but it is definitely a high-level task.

You'd need positive or negative molds for uniformity, fiberglass cloth, a lot of resin and catalyst, some really good dust masks (the kind for really fine particles), and a LOT (I mean an unbelievable amount) of sandpaper/sanding sponges and patience, because you will be sanding for what will seem like the rest of your life. laugh.gif

Of course, what our good friends have listed above is a wealth of info in itself.


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RUGHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
~points at T_C~
you know that acrylic and pvc sheeting is ten times easier to use than fiberglass and resins
~cough~
acrylic is expensive
<<
>>
but if you buy scraps
witch in most cases is all you need
its not bad

some one mentioned Wonderflex
~rampages~

yes fiberglass, Wonderflex, and resins are good for high detail and organic looking peaces
i will admit
but for armors with a sheen you have to spend a week just sanding to make it look respectable

with sheeting
its cut, heat, glue, and a small amount of sanding
they come in any color and texture you want
so no painting
1/8 in pvc sheets should be the same price for all colors (or well there riping ya)

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He's right, you know wink.gif. I just wanted to raise his hackles a bit laugh.gif

Lightweight rigid PVC would be the cheapest, sturdiest, and least toxic option aside from foam. WAY easier than resin, and cheaper and easier to deal with than Wonderflex.

Even if you can't find the color of plastic you want, with Krylon or Rust-Oleum spray-paint (both brands make spray-paints that are formulated for plastics, plus a primer that makes any spray-paint suitable for plastic) you can get around that.

With the proper adhesives and tools (a Dremel, some screws and sandpaper/sanding sponges, a hot knife, a heat gun, and probably a hacksaw), you can make almost any organic shape you please.


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Wow, I've been asleep all weekend and totally missed this thread by a mile. Umm, so I'll try to help out the young padawans in need here. Bear with me!
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QUOTE (princemercury1 @ Jul 30 2008, 08:51 PM) *
That fursuit tutorial is awesome!! I'm tempted to make one soon. ^^


Haha, isn't it crazy cool? One day when I find a need for it, I shall attempt one too!
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QUOTE (Kitsu-chan @ Jul 30 2008, 11:07 PM) *
There's lots there that'll help with my 2010 cosplays. Sadly I still need to find where to get or how to make a clear face shield like this


I know you've already received help for the mask, but I'll look around for a specific tutorial for ya.
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QUOTE (Kitsu-chan @ Jul 30 2008, 11:46 PM) *
Thanks. Hopefully between that & the links from simonsaz3 I should be able to manage all mine.

2010 plans are: Kazuma from Scryed, Ronin Warriors (not sure who yet), Moldiver, plus I want to attempt KosMos eventually. I also might need to make a Zero helmet for this year.

Major thanks to both of you.


Hehe, if you need anything else, let me know! I'll be more than happy to look around for tutorials for you (and anyone else who needs something!), hehe.
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Actually I figured how I'm gonna do the face shield with help from my cousin. Any chance you have a tutorial for making plushies? That's something I'm really gonna need. I've got to make atleast 5 for ACen.


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QUOTE (Kitsu-chan @ Aug 4 2008, 06:41 PM) *
Actually I figured how I'm gonna do the face shield with help from my cousin. Any chance you have a tutorial for making plushies? That's something I'm really gonna need. I've got to make atleast 5 for ACen.


Depends on what kind of plushie you're making. Here's one (if you scroll down to the description, you can see it has parts to the tutorial)...
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I need to make Urd & Lind's angels (from Ah! My Goddess), Tsukune (from Rosario+Vampire), & Cheese-kun (Pizza Hut's Japanese mascot). I should be able to use that for making Tsukune & possibly alter it for the angels.


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QUOTE (Kitsu-chan @ Aug 4 2008, 06:59 PM) *
I need to make Urd & Lind's angels (from Ah! My Goddess), Tsukune (from Rosario+Vampire), & Cheese-kun (Pizza Hut's Japanese mascot). I should be able to use that for making Tsukune & possibly alter it for the angels.


Here's another one... and another one.
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QUOTE (simonsaz3 @ Jul 30 2008, 07:30 PM) *
Oi, peoples... check out my cosplay guide (link in signature) to see if there's a tutorial in there for you! If not, I'll be happy to look around for some that you guys specifically asked for, hehe. Keep an eye out for an update soon!
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i love your signature for that.. now i shall be (happily) stuck staring at tutorials half the day.


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QUOTE (PoshiPocket @ Aug 5 2008, 01:35 PM) *
i love your signature for that.. now i shall be (happily) stuck staring at tutorials half the day.


Hehe, I'm glad! I've recruited another fan... yay! Time to fish out some more...
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