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Romney or Obama 2012!

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:10 AM

I wonder how much of Clinton being in the black is due to the rapid growth of the high tech sector during the 90s.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 10:02 AM

View PostDark Stranger, on 19 September 2012 - 04:31 AM, said:

They are not ALL asking for handouts no. However they also still agree with the bigger group that wants more goverment control over everything. And thier hope is more goverment control=more goverment money for them. Take someone living off the goverment dollar and have him talk to a big union worker. One person works and pays taxes and is proabably a nice guy all around. The other is a leech of what is suppose to be a helping hand for troubled people, however I'm almost 100% positive they will have the same view points and vote for the same person. Why is that? Because they both are in bed with big goverment and will vote for the person who will continue to throw them bones.

Let's talk about something else while I'm at it. Though this doesn't have anything to do with the above comment. Most liberals are all about green energy and how we should push for it more, and it's better, etc. etc. Now I'm not gonna bash green energy, I do see it's upsides. However, these same people who praise one form of energy, bash another. They hate the privite coal/oil industries, mostly for getting so many tax exempetions and other things from the goverment. They calim they are too greedy and our doing all sorts of horriable things. Yet they want to turn right around and have goverment try to make green energy the main source for everything by offering the same thing (tax exemptions and the like) yet they don't think that the green energy busniessess set up by goverment won't continue to get more handouts from them and continue to be just as greedy? It's the same thing, you've just swapped out who's getting the money.


*sighs* so everyone who votes Democrat just wants to live with the government taking care of them. Even the union worker who pays his taxes and works. That's what you think right? Every person who is on government aid uses it because they want to and are reliant on it. Are you listening to yourself? Im neither conservative or liberal (tho ive always hated most conservative views. But I dont affiliate myself with liberals. Tho I tend to agree with them moreso) so I try to see both sides of the argument. But you are just stereotyping people. You seem (and Mine) to not understand that everyone isn't just out to live for free. Yeah, we got welfare mamas and general abusers of gov aid, but why aren't you asking about the rich folk? Is it okay they put their earnings in off shore accounts to evade taxes? (Even AFTER Bush cuts) Is it okay that they got bailed out for billions with the same government money you oh so hate poor people having? Is it okay for them to send jobs over to India or Illegal immigrants? (If they are getting taxes breaks, why are they still sending jobs away? I thought the breaks were for them to bring jobs here. And with the illegal immigrant stuff, it generally is stuff we don't do, or are too prideful, but still is an adequate argument) Also don't get me started on automated things. Self check out like stuff. Even libraries have self check out. That is taking away human jobs. Granted not all the way, but it paves the way to make it that way soon. I even heard some CVSs were all automated with just one person working. So with just that, how do you expect people to find jobs as well? Yeah some folk want government aid, but for those who want to be independent, it's an uphill battle. Conservatives don't care in the slightest about that. Last time I checked, the rich don't need government assistance. Im not saying they should be burdened with the load, but all the crap they get away with isn't right.

Kahad, you know and I know that's not the cause of that. That some drips in the bucket. Maybe even sprinkles.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 11:03 AM

View PostXenoBlade, on 19 September 2012 - 10:02 AM, said:

Kahad, you know and I know that's not the cause of that. That some drips in the bucket. Maybe even sprinkles.

I think you are underestimating how big the high tech sector was back then.

Granted, it's possible I'm overestimating it with me being CS and all.

Republicans controlling Congress for most of Clinton's term probably helped.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 11:53 AM

View PostXenoBlade, on 19 September 2012 - 10:02 AM, said:

*sighs* so everyone who votes Democrat just wants to live with the government taking care of them. Even the union worker who pays his taxes and works. That's what you think right? Every person who is on government aid uses it because they want to and are reliant on it. Are you listening to yourself? Im neither conservative or liberal (tho ive always hated most conservative views. But I dont affiliate myself with liberals. Tho I tend to agree with them moreso) so I try to see both sides of the argument. But you are just stereotyping people. You seem (and Mine) to not understand that everyone isn't just out to live for free. Yeah, we got welfare mamas and general abusers of gov aid, but why aren't you asking about the rich folk? Is it okay they put their earnings in off shore accounts to evade taxes? (Even AFTER Bush cuts) Is it okay that they got bailed out for billions with the same government money you oh so hate poor people having? Is it okay for them to send jobs over to India or Illegal immigrants? (If they are getting taxes breaks, why are they still sending jobs away? I thought the breaks were for them to bring jobs here. And with the illegal immigrant stuff, it generally is stuff we don't do, or are too prideful, but still is an adequate argument) Also don't get me started on automated things. Self check out like stuff. Even libraries have self check out. That is taking away human jobs. Granted not all the way, but it paves the way to make it that way soon. I even heard some CVSs were all automated with just one person working. So with just that, how do you expect people to find jobs as well? Yeah some folk want government aid, but for those who want to be independent, it's an uphill battle. Conservatives don't care in the slightest about that. Last time I checked, the rich don't need government assistance. Im not saying they should be burdened with the load, but all the crap they get away with isn't right.

Kahad, you know and I know that's not the cause of that. That some drips in the bucket. Maybe even sprinkles.

Yes, That is the democratic platform right now. Hell, they even said it during the DNC pretty much. The democratics are all about goverment control over everything at the moment. And I was waysing that they would vote for them for different reasons but all focused around goverment helping them. One for more goverment aid, the other for more goverment control over businessess. And your right I don't like those things. However we can't send the goverment after them or regulate them without breaking most of our liberties that we were founded on. And as far as jobs go. Yes, it is hard to find work. For serveral reasons. Inculding over population, immergration, and technology getting rid of jobs. I myself am looking for a new second job. But they are out there.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 12:35 PM

View Postminecraftsmurf, on 18 September 2012 - 01:39 PM, said:

I agree I dislike some characteristics of both, and I have my own ideals of what I would do to repair this great country. What are your ideals to rebuild America?


Don't have any because it's very hard. It would require to -gasp- change America's mindset, which people don't want to do. We would need a time machine but since we don't have one to fix the deficit started all the way back during the slave trade and the Revolutionary war, well we have to just deal with what we have now.

People's priorities are backwards. The fact that movie stars and football players are getting millions, topping some of the richest people in this country, up there with Bill gates and great people outside of the USA, is depressing. Mind you most if not all of these stars/players don't give back squat to this country. Instead they spend it on the big companies/drugs who...guess what, spend it on themselves in a cycle. So why not change that fact? But the problem is we can't because entertainment is over any other job in this country. You don't need a major degree to be a movie star or player, just luck and how to understand the public eye. Also people who take pictures of these people make 1-5k for each picture. You don't find that.....odd? Queer? How is it that a socialist country is doing better than us?

And don't get me started on how we can't legalize a lot of drugs due to money and the big heads losing money if the government regulates crack/weed/etc.

I said in a post I rather vote for Sent than anyone else but since I can't vote for nobody or independent, I'm voting for Obama because hey, Republicans had two chances to make it work. So what the heck. It's better than not voting. I rather do something, even half assed, than nothing at all. I rather move to Canada or Socchi to be honest, but I don't know enough Russian for the latter.

Seriously Mine, do you even have facebook? I think you are confusing it with tumblr. Facebook posts are just as long as twitter posts now and they only want shares/likes. Tumblr posts are tl;dr and since tumblr is a blog/forum site it would make sense to compare the forums to that then fb. And you are either suffering from ADD or too lazy if you can't read a long post but make a long butt post yourself. Or so self center that you don't even want to respond to people because they are under you.

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How is immigration making you not find a job? Do you want to work a crappy job at 4.00 per hour cleaning toilets and vomit from someone's house under the table to feed your kids or your wife/mother? Oh lord there is so much wrong with the posts you made. I think you went down -10 points from the last time I talked to you. Seriously that's what a lot of illegals are doing; working crappy bottom barrel jobs. If you want those then go right ahead. And blame the companies, not technology. I support technology; do you to go back to the days that chickenpox killed people off?

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 01:02 PM

A job is a job. I know people who would gladly take a job scrubbing toilets, even at 4 dollars an hour.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 01:05 PM

View PostDark Stranger, on 19 September 2012 - 04:31 AM, said:

They are not ALL asking for handouts no. However they also still agree with the bigger group that wants more goverment control over everything. And thier hope is more goverment control=more goverment money for them. Take someone living off the goverment dollar and have him talk to a big union worker. One person works and pays taxes and is proabably a nice guy all around. The other is a leech of what is suppose to be a helping hand for troubled people, however I'm almost 100% positive they will have the same view points and vote for the same person. Why is that? Because they both are in bed with big goverment and will vote for the person who will continue to throw them bones.

Let's talk about something else while I'm at it. Though this doesn't have anything to do with the above comment. Most liberals are all about green energy and how we should push for it more, and it's better, etc. etc. Now I'm not gonna bash green energy, I do see it's upsides. However, these same people who praise one form of energy, bash another. They hate the privite coal/oil industries, mostly for getting so many tax exempetions and other things from the goverment. They calim they are too greedy and our doing all sorts of horriable things. Yet they want to turn right around and have goverment try to make green energy the main source for everything by offering the same thing (tax exemptions and the like) yet they don't think that the green energy busniessess set up by goverment won't continue to get more handouts from them and continue to be just as greedy? It's the same thing, you've just swapped out who's getting the money.


I support both (to a degree,) but I support Green energy more because of the fact that coal/oil is what is messing up this country as well as the Earth. Why do you think we have so many issues in the middle east? It's over money and what resources we can get that can make money. People are dependent on oil and other things because driving is now a state of living; you need to drive/ride a bus/etc. as much as you need to eat food and drink water.

You don't think it's weird that people are stealing oil from there and Africa and making big money, not caring what the long run is? You think that we as people, Americans, humans, have the right to deplete the Earth's resources? You don't think it's weird that well, instead of clean water we get sludge that is the result of lazy people throwing garbage from power plants and what may have you into the waters? You don't think it's weird that smog is over parts of California? No that's a natural thing because it's the result of natural resources used.

Mind you Bush had oil ridges. So did many other Presidents. I don't drive and I hate driving, not because of my motion sickness but because of the fact that there are too many issues with driving. I don't even like taking CTA but would you want to walk from where I live to downtown? It takes 3 hours on foot to do so; I tried it. So I try to limit my bus/train rides and walk and/or skate to places. I'm getting my license because of the fact that I might get a scooter or a mow pad but since I have relatives/family, I might have to get a small car, which I personally hate doing.

Demos have nothing to do with Green energy; it's like saying all Cons are oil, rich guys who only want money and drive Hummers. Sure some of them do support it but that's more of a personal matter than a political matter. If you drive fine but I am going to still work on helping this planet even if we humans are self center and are worried about our bubbles than big pictures.

That's a stereotype and I agree with Xeno; you and Mine are doing a lot of stereotypes. If you hate Democrats fine but don't lump them all together. You sure wouldn't like it if I lump all the Republicans together. Sent has showed me that right wings are not the same while my rich uncle has showed me the opposite, (mind you he's the wrong kind of right wing.) Now it would be wrong to think that all right wings are like my uncle.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 01:20 PM

View PostThe Fujoshi, on 19 September 2012 - 01:05 PM, said:

I support both (to a degree,) but I support Green energy more because of the fact that coal/oil is what is messing up this country as well as the Earth. Why do you think we have so many issues in the middle east? It's over money and what resources we can get that can make money. People are dependent on oil and other things because driving is now a state of living; you need to drive/ride a bus/etc. as much as you need to eat food and drink water.

You don't think it's weird that people are stealing oil from there and Africa and making big money, not caring what the long run is? You think that we as people, Americans, humans, have the right to deplete the Earth's resources? You don't think it's weird that well, instead of clean water we get sludge that is the result of lazy people throwing garbage from power plants and what may have you into the waters? You don't think it's weird that smog is over parts of California? No that's a natural thing because it's the result of natural resources used.

Mind you Bush had oil ridges. So did many other Presidents. I don't drive and I hate driving, not because of my motion sickness but because of the fact that there are too many issues with driving. I don't even like taking CTA but would you want to walk from where I live to downtown? It takes 3 hours on foot to do so; I tried it. So I try to limit my bus/train rides and walk and/or skate to places. I'm getting my license because of the fact that I might get a scooter or a mow pad but since I have relatives/family, I might have to get a small car, which I personally hate doing.

Demos have nothing to do with Green energy; it's like saying all Cons are oil, rich guys who only want money and drive Hummers. Sure some of them do support it but that's more of a personal matter than a political matter. If you drive fine but I am going to still work on helping this planet even if we humans are self center and are worried about our bubbles than big pictures.

Wait, are you saying that Democrats have nothing to do with green energy?
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 01:54 PM

Btw Fuji, that was me who mentioned the immigrant stuff. (Tho I did state it is jobs no one really wants.) Its not so much as they are making things harder technically, but it's the fact that businesses are allowed to get away with it is my issue. Cutting corners to avoid paying someone full wages.

Btw DS. So it's okay for big business to do all dirty underhanded stuff in order to keep government regulation down?
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 02:31 PM

View Postsentinel28a, on 18 September 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:

Iran's leaders have said they want to destroy Israel, and wouldn't mind putting a nuke or two on American soil either. That's not Obama saying that, or Romney. It's Ahmadinejad. If Iran gets nukes, Israel's going after them. Obama has told Israel "we've got your back." If he goes back on that promise, he will enrage over half the country, and prove once and for all that, while America may be a dangerous ally, we're an even more dangerous friend. Despite my opinion of Obama, I do believe he would hit Iran--and he'd be entirely right in doing so.


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Hey, Iran. I DARE you. If Iran actually makes good on those threats, they'll be sent right back to the days of Muhammad. At this point, it won't matter who's President.

And, here's the thing. If America pulls the punch first (like with Iraq), WE will look the like the bad guy. In hindsight, we absolutely have no business walking into Iraq. For Afganistan, we actually had justification due to 9/11. However, bin Laden is dead. Mission over. Time to go home. Furthermore, we give Afgan security some training and guns; and what do they do? They take that training and guns to shoot back at our troops. If they're going to be like that, screw 'em.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 03:49 PM

View PostThe Fujoshi, on 19 September 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:

Don't have any because it's very hard. It would require to -gasp- change America's mindset, which people don't want to do. We would need a time machine but since we don't have one to fix the deficit started all the way back during the slave trade and the Revolutionary war, well we have to just deal with what we have now.

People's priorities are backwards. The fact that movie stars and football players are getting millions, topping some of the richest people in this country, up there with Bill gates and great people outside of the USA, is depressing. Mind you most if not all of these stars/players don't give back squat to this country. Instead they spend it on the big companies/drugs who...guess what, spend it on themselves in a cycle. So why not change that fact? But the problem is we can't because entertainment is over any other job in this country. You don't need a major degree to be a movie star or player, just luck and how to understand the public eye. Also people who take pictures of these people make 1-5k for each picture. You don't find that.....odd? Queer? How is it that a socialist country is doing better than us?

And don't get me started on how we can't legalize a lot of drugs due to money and the big heads losing money if the government regulates crack/weed/etc.

I said in a post I rather vote for Sent than anyone else but since I can't vote for nobody or independent, I'm voting for Obama because hey, Republicans had two chances to make it work. So what the heck. It's better than not voting. I rather do something, even half assed, than nothing at all. I rather move to Canada or Socchi to be honest, but I don't know enough Russian for the latter.

Seriously Mine, do you even have facebook? I think you are confusing it with tumblr. Facebook posts are just as long as twitter posts now and they only want shares/likes. Tumblr posts are tl;dr and since tumblr is a blog/forum site it would make sense to compare the forums to that then fb. And you are either suffering from ADD or too lazy if you can't read a long post but make a long butt post yourself. Or so self center that you don't even want to respond to people because they are under you.

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How is immigration making you not find a job? Do you want to work a crappy job at 4.00 per hour cleaning toilets and vomit from someone's house under the table to feed your kids or your wife/mother? Oh lord there is so much wrong with the posts you made. I think you went down -10 points from the last time I talked to you. Seriously that's what a lot of illegals are doing; working crappy bottom barrel jobs. If you want those then go right ahead. And blame the companies, not technology. I support technology; do you to go back to the days that chickenpox killed people off?

I'm going to read more of the long posts and try to edit this later.


That picture is rather perfect to my feelings currently; however, I admire your ability to turn your thoughts into words… I for one am quite terrible at that. Here is a fairly long post that very few will read.

I don’t necessarily see ‘stars’ or ‘athletes’ making a significant amount of money as a huge issue for the economy or nations morals. These people give back… they return to us amusement and entertainment more than a fair share. They give us the ability to relax, and focus on something else than our daily lives and our issues.

Athletes dedicate their lives to training and a love for the sports they play. They make ‘sacrifices’ to be ‘better’ and ‘remain’ better than others at what they do. Both stars and athletes are constantly admired, ridiculed and completely lose their since of privacy.

Legalizing drugs? *copies picture* this is a topic that is all opinionized. Everyone has a different solution. I feel that the current ‘punishments’ for these ‘high’ seekers is not nearly harsh enough… after all.. that high is still more appealing than the damage the drugs do to their bodies, families and those around them as well as the repercussions from the punishments.

So the only reason people dislike “Illegal” Aliens is because they take away jobs from Americans? I don’t know what kind of company you work for… but mine is respectable enough to only hire American Citizens. Guess what? We have people who do low end jobs cleaning up bathrooms, tools, etc making minimum wage. Want to know what kind of people these are? Usually kids under the age of 20. American kids motivated… realizing that hey… if they want something… they have to work for it. In the summer we bring in a few High School kids as young as 16 to help out with maintenance. I guess these kids are a rarity. They are not ‘self-entitled,’ ‘self-important,’ or too proud to work. Maybe they don’t want to be a 24 year old with an Arts / Psychology degree with 0 work experience whining about how they are ‘entitled’ to a $40,000 + year a job. I wonder what the % is for Americans around 20-22 with 0 work experience these days. Selfish kids.. many of whom have parents that work 2 jobs to support their lazy lifestyle. Just the kind of people I would prefer to hire!

I support technology too! However, technology is very good at taking away low educational jobs.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 04:04 PM

View PostXenoBlade, on 19 September 2012 - 02:30 AM, said:

Just so you know, i hate depending on anyone. Heck, i feel weird even getting presents. But when we can't help our fellow mqlan, we might as well be savage animals. Im not rich, but I have no qualms giving food or whatnot to the homeless. Ive done it before and will gladly do it again. I don't believe we should ever make someone's life plush, but we ahould assist someone so they can make it on their own. If the trickle down system wasn't a horrible joke, I could see the argument to why people defend rich tax cuts. But alas, the trickle down sucks.

Also don't just regurgitate what you said. I want answers from you. Im curious to things ive brought up to you.


I donate a fair share of money to animal shelters. ^^ I feel that helping pets is more satisfying than supporting organizations like Kony 2012 where roughly 30% of the money goes to ‘unplanned’ solutions.

The trickledown effect is indeed not efficient… however it is common knowledge that “Government” is indeed not efficient at spending money. Those who have the desire to regain their feet have many programs they can use to do so. The problem occurs with the number of individuals who have no desire to ever… get off those programs. Being backed by well fair provides you with more than working a full-time low end job. Raising the minimum wage again in a less than 1% inflation economy is unethical.

Not all, but many of the people in these situations… are in them due to their own means. If there was a solid way to identify those who actually desire (and have the will power to do so) to change and become independent… I would support it whole heartedly. I want to see more people working… I want to less people taking in government funds to survive… I want to see more people power this country… proud of themselves for where they stand… and proud of their country. However… it feels like that reality is ever so more like a dream as time passes. :(

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 06:35 PM

View PostKyuu, on 19 September 2012 - 02:31 PM, said:

Well, to follow American tradition: do you know what I say to those threats?

Hey, Iran. I DARE you. If Iran actually makes good on those threats, they'll be sent right back to the days of Muhammad. At this point, it won't matter who's President.

And, here's the thing. If America pulls the punch first (like with Iraq), WE will look the like the bad guy. In hindsight, we absolutely have no business walking into Iraq. For Afganistan, we actually had justification due to 9/11. However, bin Laden is dead. Mission over. Time to go home. Furthermore, we give Afgan security some training and guns; and what do they do? They take that training and guns to shoot back at our troops. If they're going to be like that, screw 'em.


I'm with you on Afghanistan. We tried, and we tried hard, but they want to go back to their 6th Century ways of tribalism, murder, and thievery. That's one area I agree with Obama on, though I'm not sure our reasoning is the same. Either way, it's time to go. And when we leave, we say "We gave you a chance, and you tossed it back in our face. So, screw you. If we have to come back a second time, we're scorching the place." Napoleon once said "Better a known enemy than a forced ally."

With Iran, however, it's a different story. Nuclear weapons change everything. We can say "Take your best shot," but that best shot could lead to easily 100,000 dead people. (Hiroshima killed 60,000. That's a firecracker compared to modern nuclear weapons.) Just like Han and Greedo, it's much better to shoot first rather than second when you've got thousands of lives on the line.

Thing is, it may not matter what the US wants or doesn't want to do. Israel's not going to wait for Tel Aviv to get nuked. They're going to hit first because they literally cannot afford to wait. That's assuming the Gulf Kingdoms don't strike as well--the Gulf Kingdoms are Sunni Arabs, the Iranians are Shi'a Persian, and they hate each other. There has been a huge military buildup in all those tiny rich emirates lately, and it's because they fear Iran. We have treaties with all those nations and Israel. If Iran even hints at striking, then either Obama or Romney will have to respond. They don't have a choice.

Worse thing about all this is that Ahmadinejad and the mullahs who support him are arguably crazy. They really believe that by nuking Israel, they'll jumpstart Armageddon. That's what they want. It's the nuclear nightmare everyone's feared since 1945--some nut getting hold of a nuke. Say what you want about the USSR/Russia, at least it's leaders were sane (well, not Stalin, but Stalin at least had a sense of self-preservation). They were as scared to launch missiles as we were. The Iranian leadership--not the Iranian people, who are pretty kewl--are not sane.

Whoever is President, Obama or Romney, has to prove that they are tough. With crazy people and fanatics, don't try to be loved. Try to be feared. Obama, sadly, is not scaring anyone right now. I'm not sure he realized that when he became President; he thought everyone would love him. Obama didn't understand that people hate him not because of anything Bush did or whatever, but because he's an American. You can't hug someone who wants to rip your arms off.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 07:02 PM

View PostXenoBlade, on 19 September 2012 - 08:45 AM, said:

ill get to your reply when im free at work, tho I wanna address your question about Clinton and his surplus. It's not our debt he took care of (that will always exist. We've had debt for a while. Many years. When I just posted Reagan and Bush the 1st, I was just proving a point) its the amount of money we use compared what we make via cuts or just earning (via tax) so he had a surplus, meaning he was reducing the debt. Reagan, Bush all were in the red. Clinton in the black, and Bush 2 back in the red.


I personally think Clinton was always a bit of a deficit hawk, but note that he didn't start going for a balanced budget until the Republicans swept the 1994 elections. Then he began his famous--and sensible--"pivot to the middle." It worked great for him. Despite being political rivals with Newt Gingrich, they found common ground. Clinton also had big advantages: he was a President during a time of relative peace, the economy was booming with the dot-coms, and things were going great. We've had mediocre Presidents look good during peacetime (see Harding, Warren G.), and Clinton was a good President, albeit one with poor impulse control.

Now look at Reagan. Reagan was fighting the Cold War, and had to rebuild the military after the Vietnam debacle and Carter's neglect. That cost a lot of money. Dubya had 9/11. Both had recessions to deal with--for Bush, the dot-com collapse was already on the horizon in 2000, and he inherited it.

There's really not a lot a President can do to help the economy get better. There is, however, a lot a President can do to make it worse. Yes, Obama inherited a bad economy, caused by the housing bubble--which was a bipartisan screwup dating back to the Clinton years. But instead of just letting the economy correct itself, or providing incentives to small businesses to hire more people--he did the stimulus (which failed) and Obamacare (which has small businesses terrified to hire people, knowing they're going to have to pay more in insurance premiums). Bailing out GM was a mistake too, though honestly, probably Bush would've done it as well.

Green energy is a great idea. Where Obama's screwing up is assuming we can quickly make the transition from an oil-based economy to one based on wind or solar. We can't. It's impossible. It's a process that will take at least a generation, if not longer. If you do it gradually, it will work, but it's not the job for one President, even with two terms. By all means, we should invest in green energy--but also invest in the energies we do have. Building a pipeline across Nebraska or drilling for oil in Alaska (or better yet, Montana!) is not going to cause Mother Gaia to die. She's pretty damn tough. And the sooner we become energy independent, the sooner we can tell the Arabs and Huge Ego Chavez to shove it.

And finally, what Obama needs to do--and I hope he learns to do, if he's reelected--is lead. He's got a pair of dumbasses in Congress in Reid (who hasn't passed a budget in three years) and Pelosi (who cares more about her offshore accounts than this country). He needs to quit deferring to these old farts. I've been reading some excerpts from Bob Woodward's book on Obama, and it's a portrait of a man who is either unable or unwilling to lead. Boehner offered him a tax package last August that would've gained $600 billion in revenue for the US, avoided sequestration cuts, and gone a long ways towards paying off the deficit. Obama rejected it. Why? Your guess is as good as mine. The only thing I can think of is so he could score cheap political points off of calling the Republicans mean ol' rich dudes.

(Remember that Bob Woodward is one of the guys who helped take down Nixon. His books on Bush are not exactly full of praise. Woodward's firmly a member of the legacy media. If he's criticizing Obama, it's not a partisan thing.)

The thing is, if he had taken that deal, he'd probably be a shoo-in for reelection. He could go up on the podium and say "See, conservatives? I'm willing to work with your guys, and your guys worked with me. We're making money now, and we won't have to slice $1.2 billion out of the military during a crisis period. Aren't I awesome?" And Romney would have nothin'. Instead, Obama said "I won, screw you guys" and now he's fighting for his political life.

You know something, guys? We should be running for office! We're pretty good at this debate stuff.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 07:21 PM

View Postsentinel28a, on 19 September 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

You know something, guys? We should be running for office! We're pretty good at this debate stuff.

Dibs on the appointment to head the NSA!

I'll have Iran's computer hacked at the drop of a hat.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 08:47 PM

View PostThe Fujoshi, on 19 September 2012 - 12:35 PM, said:

Don't have any because it's very hard. It would require to -gasp- change America's mindset, which people don't want to do. We would need a time machine but since we don't have one to fix the deficit started all the way back during the slave trade and the Revolutionary war, well we have to just deal with what we have now.

People's priorities are backwards. The fact that movie stars and football players are getting millions, topping some of the richest people in this country, up there with Bill gates and great people outside of the USA, is depressing. Mind you most if not all of these stars/players don't give back squat to this country. Instead they spend it on the big companies/drugs who...guess what, spend it on themselves in a cycle. So why not change that fact? But the problem is we can't because entertainment is over any other job in this country. You don't need a major degree to be a movie star or player, just luck and how to understand the public eye. Also people who take pictures of these people make 1-5k for each picture. You don't find that.....odd? Queer? How is it that a socialist country is doing better than us?

And don't get me started on how we can't legalize a lot of drugs due to money and the big heads losing money if the government regulates crack/weed/etc.

I said in a post I rather vote for Sent than anyone else but since I can't vote for nobody or independent, I'm voting for Obama because hey, Republicans had two chances to make it work. So what the heck. It's better than not voting. I rather do something, even half assed, than nothing at all. I rather move to Canada or Socchi to be honest, but I don't know enough Russian for the latter.

Seriously Mine, do you even have facebook? I think you are confusing it with tumblr. Facebook posts are just as long as twitter posts now and they only want shares/likes. Tumblr posts are tl;dr and since tumblr is a blog/forum site it would make sense to compare the forums to that then fb. And you are either suffering from ADD or too lazy if you can't read a long post but make a long butt post yourself. Or so self center that you don't even want to respond to people because they are under you.

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How is immigration making you not find a job? Do you want to work a crappy job at 4.00 per hour cleaning toilets and vomit from someone's house under the table to feed your kids or your wife/mother? Oh lord there is so much wrong with the posts you made. I think you went down -10 points from the last time I talked to you. Seriously that's what a lot of illegals are doing; working crappy bottom barrel jobs. If you want those then go right ahead. And blame the companies, not technology. I support technology; do you to go back to the days that chickenpox killed people off?

I'm going to read more of the long posts and try to edit this later.

ooooh. I love those lines. Apparently you have forgetten that the federal minimium wage is over $7.00. And the only people who make under that are waiters/waiteress or people who only get paid by commisions. So no, there is $4.00 jobs for cleaning toliets. If there are, they are being paid under the table illegaly. So don't try to bring up that those types of sob storires. I myslef am working two jobs that both pay under 10 bucks a hour and I can still get by without goverment aid. And I didn't say immigration makes me not find a job. I said it makes it harder. Ft. Wayne has one of the highest immigration in almost the entire country. We have the highest rate of Burmese and other asians in our city then the rest of the entire midwest alone. Add in other immigrants from south of the boarder and it only adds more people into the workforce. And I also did not say technology was bad. I said it was also a factor in making it harder to find jobs. We have higher and higher population rate yet technology reduces the number of jobs needed to get things done. More people+less jobs = harder to find work. Doesn't mean people should give up looking for work. I'm just saying the market for jobs is even harder now then it was many years ago. Which is ironic that people are still fighting about prolife when there wont be anyway for people to work to take care of them if the population rate keeps going up.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 08:52 PM

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Btw Fuji, that was me who mentioned the immigrant stuff. (Tho I did state it is jobs no one really wants.) Its not so much as they are making things harder technically, but it's the fact that businesses are allowed to get away with it is my issue. Cutting corners to avoid paying someone full wages.

Btw DS. So it's okay for big business to do all dirty underhanded stuff in order to keep government regulation down?


Quoting after DS's post more so than your post, although I did mention about the jobs that no one really wants as well ^^;: (Because this thread is bloody active, putting stuff in italics.)

" And as far as jobs go. Yes, it is hard to find work. For serveral reasons. Inculding over population, immergration, and technology getting rid of jobs. I myself am looking for a new second job. But they are out there. "

It reminded me of quote that someone said on swagbucks in a comment about a program:

"Why is this in Spanish? This is what is wrong with this country now! This is an English speaking country!"

You can't ignore the Americas who feel that the only people should be here are Americans and that Hispanics are taking all the 'good jobs.' Doesn't that remind you of....I'm not sure....a lot of other extreme groups? Such as the red scare people against communist and how Russians were so bad? The previous wars? The KKK?

Before you go "Oh this is an English speaking country," what country only speaks one language and only one language through it's entire history to current? Japanese has Chinese characters and base characters for English words. Tagalog is Japanese, English, Chinese, and Hispanic words. Baka is Tagalog for cow and Japanese for stupid. South America speaks Portuguese as well as Spanish. Switzerland speaks French, German, and four other languages in it's country. I can go on but you understand. Saying that Americans should only speak American, or English, is silly. Just because it's 2012 and things have changed, even though back in the old days we had people speaking French and it was a-ok because French people are hot doesn't mean someone, anyone should sound like an indirect racist. If it were in your shoes you would be calling uncle and say "LET ME GET OPTIONS WE ARE HUMAN." We are a Superpower and the only nation, outside of China and maybe India, that can do the things we do and not have a lot of other countries stand up to. So that is why people come here, because their own countries are not, among culture issues.

Heck you can't even debate like this in China and parts of Vietnam.

I say give anyone options within reason. If they are lazy then yeah boot them out but so far I haven't found too many lazy Hispanics in the work force. They exist but it's depressing when you are working community service and the Hispanics, all of them in the group, are working harder than the Blacks/whites, who are sitting around letting them do the work.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 08:59 PM

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Btw Fuji, that was me who mentioned the immigrant stuff. (Tho I did state it is jobs no one really wants.) Its not so much as they are making things harder technically, but it's the fact that businesses are allowed to get away with it is my issue. Cutting corners to avoid paying someone full wages.

Btw DS. So it's okay for big business to do all dirty underhanded stuff in order to keep government regulation down?

No. But's it's up to us as citizians to know about said underhanded practices if the media will not get on it. Remember when WAL-Mart had those commercials about they supported America and how everything they made/sold was "American made". (I've tried searching youtube for them with no avial). Then Wal-mart and pretty much every other store in the entire united states started building/selling everything from overseas. Now if we as consumers cared enough about it and was pissed off enough about it, we would have stopped shopping there, therefore killing thier profits and making them regret their underhandedness. But we didn't. We all didn't care and now have found ourselves in a mess and only point at big compaines to blame instead of ourselves. We as Americans have been far to lazy about everything. From child caring, to who we actually vote into office. Now that everything is F'd up we think it's someone elses fault besides our own.

If there is one positive thing about any of the past four years it seems that more people have awaken to see, "what the hell is going on?" around us. And it seems people my age and younger are more involed in politics then before, which is a good thing.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:01 PM

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Quoting after DS's post more so than your post, although I did mention about the jobs that no one really wants as well ^^;: (Because this thread is bloody active, putting stuff in italics.)

" And as far as jobs go. Yes, it is hard to find work. For serveral reasons. Inculding over population, immergration, and technology getting rid of jobs. I myself am looking for a new second job. But they are out there. "

It reminded me of quote that someone said on swagbucks in a comment about a program:

"Why is this in Spanish? This is what is wrong with this country now! This is an English speaking country!"

You can't ignore the Americas who feel that the only people should be here are Americans and that Hispanics are taking all the 'good jobs.' Doesn't that remind you of....I'm not sure....a lot of other extreme groups? Such as the red scare people against communist and how Russians were so bad? The previous wars? The KKK?

Before you go "Oh this is an English speaking country," what country only speaks one language and only one language through it's entire history to current? Japanese has Chinese characters and base characters for English words. Tagalog is Japanese, English, Chinese, and Hispanic words. Baka is Tagalog for cow and Japanese for stupid. South America speaks Portuguese as well as Spanish. Switzerland speaks French, German, and four other languages in it's country. I can go on but you understand. Saying that Americans should only speak American, or English, is silly. Just because it's 2012 and things have changed, even though back in the old days we had people speaking French and it was a-ok because French people are hot doesn't mean someone, anyone should sound like an indirect racist. If it were in your shoes you would be calling uncle and say "LET ME GET OPTIONS WE ARE HUMAN." We are a Superpower and the only nation, outside of China and maybe India, that can do the things we do and not have a lot of other countries stand up to. So that is why people come here, because their own countries are not, among culture issues.

Heck you can't even debate like this in China and parts of Vietnam.

I say give anyone options within reason. If they are lazy then yeah boot them out but so far I haven't found too many lazy Hispanics in the work force. They exist but it's depressing when you are working community service and the Hispanics, all of them in the group, are working harder than the Blacks/whites, who are sitting around letting them do the work.

So how did that equal to anything I just said about immigration hurting jobs? All you did was tell me how people hate any other language other then English. Which is nothing about what I just said.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:14 PM

Because Mine said about too lazy;didn't read long posts, I am splitting it up for two different people to avoid them. SO mine the first part is for you and the latter is for Sent.

If this is not allowed sorries >.> I hate double posting. BTW IF IT LOOKS WEIRD ITS BECAUSE MY INTERNET WON'T WORK and I am reading all the post and No.6 at the same time ><

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I agree; people are lazy. My mom had a job at 14 while I couldn't get a job until I was 22 because:

1) I couldn't speak Japanese fluent enough and I did not speak the big three: French, Polish, Spanish and or Portuguese. Five years ago it wasn't as bad but now I can't find a job that doesn't indirectly or directly lean towards that. The call back I received from one job thought I spoke fluent Spanish, which is why they wanted to hire me on the spot.

2)I didn't know someone in said job. I applied to Gamestop and expressed how much knowledge I had in games, pre-orders, and that I even worked retail and could describe how to transfer games. I even wrote a thank you letter after the fact and someone who knew someone in Gamestop got the job. Mind you, the people in Gamestop not only do not know what the heck games are like Persona, but even lie to you, which is why I go to one Gamestop in Chicago.

Now the reason why people can't get jobs now are those two plus the fact that employers want a LOT out of people. No jail time, you must know at LEAST two languages of some kind or you must have 5-10+ experience. I even tried to work at Borders and nada. The CEO of my last job was doing mock interviews which is how I got hired.

What person you know that wants to clean up vomit? Or someone that clogged up the toilet on purpose with a tampon? Or better yet, blood from someone who tried to shoot up heroin on the floor and the walls and the sink? I don't know too many kids, or adults, who would do that. And mind you, paying below or at least minimum wage? Seriously would you do that? I couldn't even do that; I would go Yangire and kill everyone off and I suffer from Emetophobia, so the only job I can't work is a janitor, no matter how badly I need it. I know I will go apeshit one day.

BTW no I don't think it's a weird phobia and no I don't want to get over it.

A lot of Hispanic people do it because they need the money and it's a survival. Americans are spoiled; have you ever had to worry about going back to a country that's suffering from poverty? Working to help your family from said poverty, with no good clothes or clean water, or constant drug wars? I haven't, nobody on this forum has, and neither have you Mine. So blame the companies, not the people who are doing the jobs that said companies created in the first place.

Legalize drugs....think about it. If you legalize cocaine and the government regulates who gets what, they make a profit. It's similar if you buy game currency from Facebook; you get your game coins, FB gets a profit as well as any other second party distributors. That would be the same with drugs instead of having only the big wigs getting money and people shooting each other over land.

Mine you think people like Nicki Minaj are good entertainment and should get millions of dollars on nothing or people like similar to Charlie Sheen and waste it on drugs? They are no different than those 'offends' you describe, expect they are rich and addicted while most drug users are poor and addicted. And you wonder why we are in the red. I don't think people like Minaj has an AA or anything higher.

@Sent: I don't know; the fact that we have more Earthquakes compared to years ago and so many natural disasters shows that something is up. Also look at the food allergies, breathing problems, and the cases of Autisim compared to the 50-60s; its scary. I still think the cause is big companies throwing oil and other refuse into the waters among other things.

I don't want to run for office or anything politic because I would hack into the office computer or the main frame to the Bureau and change around figures for lulz. BUT I will keep on trying to change things in my crappy city and around this horrible nation. Or just move to Socchi and become more of a Hikkimori.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 09:43 PM

I think alot of the problems you mentioned seem to be local. The only jobs that even hint at liking you more if you know another language are something along the lines of teaching, or public service. It is by no ways a deal breaker for any normal job. Your right about knowing someone that is in a place to work there sometimes, but buisness that run like that most of the time start to get a bad reputation over the years, and people stop coming. The job market does do stupid stuff as well I agree with you. Like hiring someone in and having them work there for years, but wont teach them anything to for a higher postion. Then when someone leaves who is higher up the company refuses to train someone and instead tries to find someone with the exact of amount of experiance to hire in right away. Which almost never works.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 11:29 PM

View PostThe Fujoshi, on 19 September 2012 - 09:14 PM, said:


@Sent: I don't know; the fact that we have more Earthquakes compared to years ago and so many natural disasters shows that something is up. Also look at the food allergies, breathing problems, and the cases of Autisim compared to the 50-60s; its scary. I still think the cause is big companies throwing oil and other refuse into the waters among other things.


If you think that's the cause...well, there's no way I can answer that without sounding insulting.

Earthquakes release energy that is more than all the energy released by all the atomic bombs ever made about 100 times over. The 2011 Sendai quake moved the Earth off its axis. Oil, fracking, and anything man does, up to and including driving our entire nuclear arsenal underground and setting it off would not even come remotely close. The Mt. St. Helens eruption in 1980 alone was the equivalent of several hundred Hiroshima-size nuclear weapons--and that was just a tiny boom compared to Krakatoa in the 1880s.

Breathing problems are probably less than, say, the Middle Ages, because people aren't keeling over from tuberculosis. Food allergies weren't generally known about until the 20th Century. Autism is on the rise because it wasn't accurately diagnosed until the late 1970s, and we're only now beginning to understand that it's genetic, and not caused by outside influences. (My brother is autistic, and he was initially diagnosed with schizophrenia. It wasn't until he was 10 that a doctor finally identified autism. That was in 1994.)

So no, Big Oil can't do all that. And why would it want to? "Hey, let's kill our consumers!" That business plan is only good for the Umbrella Corporation and maybe Genom. (And even Genom didn't want their Boomers to kill everyone.)

We're an arrogant bunch, humanity. We think that we can destroy a planet that has survived direct hits from asteroids.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 08:06 AM

On Topic peeps. For moment, I didn't realize I was in the Romney Obama thread :/

Anywho, at this stage I think people are pretty much set in who they plan on electing. Also, shouldn't the debates have already started by now? Less than two months away and I have barely heard a peep about them.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:08 AM

Jon Stewart Destroys Fox News for Trying to Help Mitt Romney Spin His Plutocratic ‘47 Percent’ Remark

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:15 AM

View Postrondo, on 20 September 2012 - 08:06 AM, said:

On Topic peeps. For moment, I didn't realize I was in the Romney Obama thread :/

Anywho, at this stage I think people are pretty much set in who they plan on electing. Also, shouldn't the debates have already started by now? Less than two months away and I have barely heard a peep about them.

Isn't that what politics is all about though? People arguing about anything and everything til it doesn't make sense anymore? :P
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 11:19 AM

View PostDark Stranger, on 20 September 2012 - 11:15 AM, said:

Isn't that what politics is all about though? People arguing about anything and everything til it doesn't make sense anymore? :P


It didn't make sense from the start however on a side note, looks like there will be a Jon Stewart vs Bill O'Reilly debate October 6th. Oh my.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 12:40 PM

View Postrondo, on 20 September 2012 - 11:19 AM, said:

It didn't make sense from the start however on a side note, looks like there will be a Jon Stewart vs Bill O'Reilly debate October 6th. Oh my.


That should be fun. I give the edge to Stewart here--not because I think he's right, but because O'Reilly lets his temper get the better of him. Stewart is great in debates--and he's more bipartisan than O'Reilly. Stewart is a liberal, but he's not afraid to go after his own party; he tore Harry Reid a new orifice back in August.

Still, it should be fun. One should remember that both are basically entertainers, though, especially Stewart, who hosts a comedy show. Don't know if Stewart and O'Reilly are friends off-camera. Ann Coulter and Bill Maher are friends and even dated for awhile, which is mind-blowing.

The actual Presidential debates start next week. Those will be fun to watch as well. Obama is a good speaker (he tends to flounder without his teleprompter, but in a debate format, he's excellent), and Romney proved in the primaries he can hold his own. Both these guys will be in attack mode; their bases will scream if they're not. McCain/Obama was actually cordial for the most part; I don't anticipate that happening here. There will be political blood.

Real Clear Politics (which is a fantastic, bipartisan site, with daily-updated polls) had two excellent articles this week: "Why Obama Will Win" and "Why Romney Will Win." Both articles cite an interesting, unprecedented fact for both candidates. No incumbent (except FDR) has ever won an election with an unemployment rate above 8%, as it is now. No challenger has ever won an election trailing six weeks before an election (though both Reagan in '80 and Bush in '04 won after being statistically tied; we're seven weeks out now). So either Obama's going to follow FDR or Romney's going to make history, assuming he can't close the gap in the next week.

Either way, despite what pundits are saying, neither candidate is remotely close to being done.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 12:55 PM

Only two more months and this stupidity will be over.

Then we get to do it all over again in '14.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 12:59 PM

View Postkahad, on 20 September 2012 - 12:55 PM, said:

Only two more months and this stupidity will be over.

Then we get to do it all over again in '14.


How can something be fun, interesting and depressing all at once?

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 01:43 PM

I'll be glad to see the political ads die down on TV. I'm sure the tv channels will miss all that revenue.

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