Roark, on 23 August 2012 - 10:26 AM, said:
Get a job.
Seriously, working at IL minimum wage and assuming a 30% tax rate, you'd need to work an average of less than 6 hours/week to afford a total of $1500. Put another way, you'd need to save ~$30 a week to afford the hotel on your own, with no friends chipping in.
It sounds like you lack money management skills, something that "people with... well off jobs" generally possess.
Stop right there because you are getting personal and after this I refuse to converse with you any more. Anything you say will be moot and I'll ignore you in favor of saving your grace. You already had a single troll post, "I guess everyone in this thread didn't do economics 101," so I should had figured that out that anything you said will be bias and sort of self centred. Then thread was pretty much done until you said that.
I have a job thank you very much; I was voicing the people who do not have a job or a high paying job and are in college and couldn't afford a 200 a night hotel nor had any friends who could drive them to the 100 dollar hotel. Not everyone is as blessed as you, realize that.
Apparently you didn't read my post so while I can't do figures, you apparently don't have the skills to not really read outside of skimming. I said I had NO problem with doing this but if it reaches 200 dollars a night then I won't go after 2013 because I rather spend my money else where. Where does it say in any of my posts that I don't have a job? Or that I can't afford a hotel room for that matter? You are assuming from your skimming.
Also where are you getting your figures for working? You would be lucky to work 6 hours a week at 8.25 or more and even then you have to put in: Rent, bills, etc. Internet here is 60-100 dollars, electricity, unless included varies, Unless you have food stamps you have to buy your own food, and Rent here in Chicago is a good 600-800 dollars a month. I'm not even including anything else, such as making/saving for a cosplay or even other bills like heat/gas.
And I don't know about you, but in Chicago it's really hard to find a job unless you know someone. Tell that to the many people in the shelters here or my cousin who has been trying to find a job for 4+ years and has a masters, compared to my weed smoking cousin who got a job because his gf's mom is the general manager. Just because you found a job in your state doesn't mean everyone has your luck. I work part time at a convention center near the Hyatt, which is why I am shocked about the hotel fees. They get about a good 100k in people from conventions when I do work there and it's not as much as Rosemount Hyatt. And these doctors pay a good 500-1000 dollar membership fee.
Fox pointed out that Gencon gets more people than ACen yet we are still getting more expensive, even though it's not nearly as big as Gencon. Also how in the world can I do all the attendance figures? I googled all the areas and conventions; I didn't scan all of the conventions you mentioned and I don't keep up with attendance figures like some people. And since they were in different states I assumed, like you just assumed that I don't work, that they would be cheaper since Illinois has one of the highest taxes in the country, still.
@JujuFox: Sorry I missed your post over said formention person ^ I haven't been to Gencon so I was comparing other states and their tax rate to ACen as well as the fact that there are other Hyatts in Chicago that are not as expensive as the Hyatt in Rosemount, not other conventions attendances, due to the area, tax rates, etc. Indiana isn't cheap either but from what I gathered Baltimore is actual a cheap state compared to Chicago but I am simply going by what my friends tell me from their cost of living. So I apologize fox! I was kind of irate and needed to cool off, especially from the "get a job," comment.
Most of my figures went towards Hyatt in Mccomick vs. Hyatt in Rosemount as well as the tax rate here. The Hyatt where I work at is about 100-150 dollars a night. So if it seems bias it's because I was used to one thing and surprised to see another thing, outside of the difference that one is near the hotel and the other is near downtown/chinatown.
I myself use hotel points and other means to pay for hotels, such as save money. But I don't hotel at the Hyatt; I do the Double tree or the Embassy. I don't need convenience but I don't have any friends who can drive me back and forth a mile to a hotel and I do wear something outside of one cosplay, (and want to relax,) so in a way I am paying for convenience as well as the fact that I have no other options.
@Bloo09: Some people are guessing that since the Hyatt is around 150-180 that it might go up to 200 without it being announced from the previous posts. That's what a lot of people's concerns were about, since the badge prices are around 50-60+ dollars already :/ I'm sorry from making this thread go this far but from what Roark said kind of annoyed the heck out of me. I should had been the bigger person and just ignored his first post. So anything said from Roark I'm going to ignore.