Horrible treatment at the Embassy
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 02:46 PM
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 03:11 PM
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 05:22 PM
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Posted 30 April 2012 - 06:29 PM
I needed to print something out in the business center and my boyfriend has a bad back (from an injury last fall), and he was sitting on the floor while I quickly printed it out.
A guy came over and yelled at him saying he couldn't be on the floor. I can understand this but he was rather rude about how he told us and we had only been in there like a minute or two at the time. It wasn't like we had been in there for 20 minutes or anything.
Again, he was just really rude about telling him to stand up.
On the flip side, the staff was very nice on Sunday when I asked if we could have a late check out.
Though next year may be they can plan better so they don't run out of towels on Saturday. (I guess it's a good excuse to have con funk.)
#5
Posted 30 April 2012 - 07:03 PM
samurai teddybear, on 30 April 2012 - 02:46 PM, said:
It is written in the rooms that the common area closes at 10 and that security will ask you to leave.
#6
Posted 30 April 2012 - 07:09 PM
Catwho, on 30 April 2012 - 03:11 PM, said:
Pretty much this. I had bad experiences at the Hyatt before myself, (mostly due to con goers,) which is why I go to the Embassy. But I'm thinking about staying at the Double tree just to see if it's better. That and it's the only hotel I haven't tried within walking distance.
Sorry op that you had to go through that! At least you got a one night refund!
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 12:55 AM
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Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:04 AM
kenkendazo, on 30 April 2012 - 07:03 PM, said:
When I checked in on Thursday I was not given any rules.... And I was there with my Friends and that Security guard was extremely rude. They should have had the area roped off like they do for breakfast if it was going to be closed. The security guard is a hotel employee and has no authority over me to order me to my room like I am a child. He SHOULD have said the area is closed per new Rule*state rule* will you please leave the area. I would have been fine with that. My stay at the hotel helps pay his salary so he should be nice to all who stay there.
#9
Posted 01 May 2012 - 08:07 AM
Stormy-chan, on 01 May 2012 - 08:04 AM, said:
Indeed. I'm I'm also quite sure that there will be people working at the hotel who look forward to these type of cons because they think that they can abuse their power for kicks. Meh. He should have stated it was in the room etc. and given you a chance before throwing you out in that manner.
#10
Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:37 AM
Mullenkamp, on 30 April 2012 - 05:22 PM, said:
.......they refunded a nights parking fee? Really? That's quite interesting...
My friends and I stayed at the Embassy, and when checking in they had us write everyone's names who was staying in the hotel room. Then we asked about parking and how much it would be. The lady proceeded to tell us that it would be 25 dollars for the whole weekend....misquote by a long shot.
When Sunday rolled around, we looked at our bill and it was instead 14 dollars a night. (we got there on Thursday). So we went up to the desk and told them about our misquote, and they said there was absolutely nothing they could do for us, and instead we had to pay that. So we just told them that what they could do for us was make sure every one of their staff knew the prices so nobody else would get misquoted again and run into that trouble. So for the fact that they refunded a nights parking fee for you guys but not for us just kinda ticks me off. That and every one else we talked to said they didn't have to write down their names. Just our group of people...
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#11
Posted 01 May 2012 - 12:50 PM
So Sunday morning after looking over our bill, we asked the guy who was at the front desk if we could have it adjusted to account for the fact that we hadn't actually been parked in their garage since 4pm the day before, especially since we now had to pay for parking overnight in a different garage. I dunno if he could check the last time our card had been swiped in the garage to verify that we'd left and not come back or what, but he was perfectly willing to refund the difference.
There may have been a difference between our situations simply because there was no miscommunication between staff in our case - it was just a simple fact that we had not received something we were billed for, and it was presumably verifiable in their records. (And by the way, they did write down my name and my girlfriend's when we checked in, so as far as I know that wasn't unusual treatment.)
#12
Posted 01 May 2012 - 02:07 PM
#13
Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:03 PM
kenkendazo, on 30 April 2012 - 07:03 PM, said:
It isn't an issue that the area was closed, the issue was the method in which we were asked to leave. (and where in the room? In the hotel information book? Tell me, how many people read that book? After my first time staying at a hotel, I only check it occasionally. I pulled it out after we had been closed out of other things)
Any change of usual operating hours should be posted in the area that the change that it is being done to. The common area should have signs posted at the main entries, the pool that got closed a half an hour early on Saturday should have had signs as well. And the one place my friend did not mention, the bar. The hotel book in the room says the bar is open until 2:00am. Saturday night it closed shortly before midnight.
Also, I am an adult, no employee of a hotel I am paying to stay at has the right to tell me to go to my room. They can tell me to leave an area because it is closing, but not "Go to your room" I should not be brushed off like I am being silly, nor should I be ignored like I am difficult.
I am very sad about this treatment because I adore the Embassy. The staff has been very nice and courteous for years, but this singular night security man has ruined it for me, how can I trust a hotel who allows an employee to behave so extremely beyond acceptable behavior? Even if it is just one, the extremity make me wonder how long it will be until other employees realize they can get away with it (there is already a bellhop who is borderline arrogant, but that was last year, he didn't have an issue with us this year) That and the safety issues that come with how he closed the pool. There are a LOT of dangerous what ifs that could have happened do to his unprofessional behavior.
#14
Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:22 PM
I have not had any trouble with ES, but then I'm typically only there when I'm sleeping so don't have as much interaction with staff. I also did not get any modified rules when I checked in (and previously they've placed a paper under the door if something like that changed after checking in). I agree, it sounds like it was poorly handled all around.
FYI It is standard to ask for the names of the people in the room so that there is a listing of authorized occupants if someone loses a room key etc. I imagine in the rush of things, this isn't always adhered to, but don't worry that you were singled out for that alone.
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:55 PM
frzndaqiri, on 08 May 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:
Not to be morbid, but also in case of a fire, collapse, etc, so they can account for possible bodies in the wreckage.
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#16
Posted 08 May 2012 - 08:12 PM
myrla, on 08 May 2012 - 03:55 PM, said:
Because of the nature of the suite rooms, Embassy has a major problem with room packing - essentially a group booking a room, claiming x number of people would be there and then letting more than the declared or even safely allowable amount. It's not safe to say 6 people are allowed in this room and then a big group lies and then packs in 10 or 12. Which I've seen almost every year. So while it's a touch inconvenient to those of us who don't engage in this behavior, listing the individuals who are allowed to stay in the room helps them maintain proper and safe per room allowances against those who do.
#17
Posted 16 May 2012 - 10:10 PM
I also received a sheet on Thursday(I got an early check in shortly after noon) that had all their rules laid out, including guests being required to leave the commons at 10pm. I've gotten said sheet every year I've stayed there. That said, maybe they ran out or something?
While I am not doubting there may have been a mishap(I stay at enough hotels while I work conventions to have my own share of horror stories), I honestly believe this to be one of the best hotels, if not the best in the area. It is the only one I've never had problems with.
I have to wonder if it was less the hotel and more the security guard themselves. No one deserves to be treated so poorly.
#18
Posted 18 May 2012 - 07:30 AM
We checked in on Thursday also and it was around 2pm I think. I find it hard to believe they ran out, we just were not provided with the needed information(print outs) to make our stay less annoying for the one incident on Friday. The One security guard needs to be taught manners and how to deal with people. You can ask for people to leave an area. You CAN NOT ORDER THEM TO THEIR ROOMS! He has no authority to tell me where to go, but he could have politely asked me to leave the area because it was closed till morning. That security guard should be glad if he wasnt fired after the pool incident.. There is no call for the Health and Safety issues caused by his careless and reckless actions to the patrons of the hotel using the pool at that time. We pay for him to have a job there at least for that weekend.....
sigh it is sad though, because like you I had not previously had any issues staying here. This just makes me want to explore my options and not come back any time soon.
#19
Posted 18 May 2012 - 11:42 AM
Stormy-chan, on 18 May 2012 - 07:30 AM, said:
We checked in on Thursday also and it was around 2pm I think. I find it hard to believe they ran out, we just were not provided with the needed information(print outs) to make our stay less annoying for the one incident on Friday. The One security guard needs to be taught manners and how to deal with people. You can ask for people to leave an area. You CAN NOT ORDER THEM TO THEIR ROOMS! He has no authority to tell me where to go, but he could have politely asked me to leave the area because it was closed till morning. That security guard should be glad if he wasnt fired after the pool incident.. There is no call for the Health and Safety issues caused by his careless and reckless actions to the patrons of the hotel using the pool at that time. We pay for him to have a job there at least for that weekend.....
sigh it is sad though, because like you I had not previously had any issues staying here. This just makes me want to explore my options and not come back any time soon.
I would like to hear the guards side. To me it's starting to feel like OP might have provoked him.
This post has been edited by kenkendazo : 18 May 2012 - 11:55 AM
#20
Posted 18 May 2012 - 01:21 PM
Actually, they can.
"He has no authority to tell me where to go"
He does, and he's given that because he works for the hotel. He can also get you expelled from the hotel, and out on the street, if he'd like.
I've been a security guard (not at hotels, but at amphitheaters, concerts, etc) and I'd love to hear the whole story here, because there's quite a bit missing.
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#21
Posted 18 May 2012 - 02:54 PM
A hotel is not an amphitheater or concert hall. Even then you can only make people leave the area, not send them to their rooms since you do not follow them home(unless you are a stalker....)
As far as the guards side I am sure he had to deal with allot of annoyingly immature people that weekend, but we were not those people. We asked politely why, and HE was the one who ignored the question and us when asked.
HE endangered people at the pool with turning out lights and pouring chemicals into the pool area before everyone had a chance to get out of the pool. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR HIS SIDE on that one since that was not acceptable! Dark with wet floors, me blind without glasses trying not to get knocked down or shoved on my way to retrieve said glasses, my husband bumped and slipped because of the guards hurried, and reckless behavior. They are lucky no one was hurt or they would have a lawsuit instead of a complaint.
I spoke with the higher up management and they told me he should never have done any of that, and that the pool was to be closed at 11p not 10:30p. He was suppose to inform the pool area that the pool would close at 11p sharp at 10:30pm. This man is not a good employee if he can not even follow instructions given him like that.
#22
Posted 18 May 2012 - 04:32 PM
There's a snarky side of me that really wants to respond (wow, you're 33, and acting like this?), but I'll just respond to the legal side:
He can, in fact, ask you - and make you - clear out of any area at any time. He's given that authority by the hotel, backed up when you sign into the hotel, and you have to follow their procedures. An evac is an evac - could be because of mutant ebola, rabid puppies, time to close down, or fire alarm. If you don't like that, I would consider finding another hotel.
I highly doubt a security guard would have been "spraying chemicals" into a pool - first off, most pools must be tested before they are "dumped". Proper levels are maintained, not just haphazardly put in.
I would guess that Embassy Suites in Chicago at Ohare uses a similar procedure to what the Lakefront one does..
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That is not a night security guard's job.
So, forgive me if I'm a bit skeptical of all of this, but I have stayed in hotels in probably at least 30 states now, and I've never seen a "night security guard" do a damned thing with a pool.
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Posted 18 May 2012 - 05:38 PM
Stormy-chan, on 18 May 2012 - 07:30 AM, said:
We checked in on Thursday also and it was around 2pm I think. I find it hard to believe they ran out, we just were not provided with the needed information(print outs) to make our stay less annoying for the one incident on Friday. The One security guard needs to be taught manners and how to deal with people. You can ask for people to leave an area. You CAN NOT ORDER THEM TO THEIR ROOMS! He has no authority to tell me where to go, but he could have politely asked me to leave the area because it was closed till morning. That security guard should be glad if he wasnt fired after the pool incident.. There is no call for the Health and Safety issues caused by his careless and reckless actions to the patrons of the hotel using the pool at that time. We pay for him to have a job there at least for that weekend.....
sigh it is sad though, because like you I had not previously had any issues staying here. This just makes me want to explore my options and not come back any time soon.
What other options do you have for hotels? Let's go over them:
Hyatt: Drunk people, condoms, elevator issues. Also the rooms are smaller. Mixed reviews. The party people as well as some of the non obvious folks don't really care. (As well as the hell bent people who love the Hyatt regardless.)
Double tree: similar issues as the Embassy because it's the same corporation along with the Hilton. Mixed reviews, from the rooms being too small to the pool area issues.
Hilton: Have no idea; haven't been there.....yet. I heard mixed reviews about it.
So unless you go to motel 6 or have a car you might have problems....
EDIT: I'm actually curious about this because I stayed at the Embassy three times and at the Hyatt three times and I had more problems with the former than the later. Most of the issues were roommate situations among other things as well as being disorganized. I personally never had issues with the staff at the Embassy. They even held my stuff when nobody else would help me (other con goers.)
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 10:31 AM
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#25
Posted 19 May 2012 - 03:33 PM
I also have to believe there's back story we're not getting, and it may not even be with this group. It may have been with another group that was offstage from where you were who tainted his mood at just the wrong moment. It may have been he mistook you guys for another group. There's really no way to know. In any case, I think we've hashed this to the end of its relevancy. Your remedies are through Embassy corporate, and all their contact info is on their website. They do read and respond to complaints, because I have submitted them about other hotels in the past (I travel a lot for work, and have some pretty trippy travel war stories, like having someone else checked into my room with all my stuff in it). Aaanyway. Reach out to corporate and see if they can make things right with you. I'm sorry you had a bad experience, but it isn't a consistent pattern with this hotel, and mostly we have rave reviews about them in the attendee survey we're doing. So as an isolated incident it is unfortunate, but not something that is going to alter the nature of our relationship with the venue- we love them and they treat us well, and they treat our attendees well.
I am still very sorry that wasn't your experience. Let's close this thread out because it's turning into picking and name calling at this point.
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Posted 19 May 2012 - 07:52 PM
myrla, on 19 May 2012 - 10:31 AM, said:
I mean close hotels, sorry I wasn't clear. Besides a choice few the rest you either need a car or you have to walk a distance.
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 09:54 AM
samurai teddybear, on 20 May 2012 - 06:04 AM, said:
No, since you know he isn't going to read this, this is for you to //complain// and start to treat other people like the second class citizen that you were so offended of being treated as. Yeah, I'm on the guard's side for this one.
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Posted 20 May 2012 - 07:23 PM
sisterdiscord, on 19 May 2012 - 03:33 PM, said:
samurai teddybear, on 20 May 2012 - 06:04 AM, said:
MODS, please close this thread. The people posting criticism is no longer being constructive. Y u no listen to Sisterdiscord?
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