Dark Stranger, on 14 October 2012 - 12:39 AM, said:
Yeah, way to sound totally non sexist/racist on that first sentence. "it's all chiense AND men's fault". Second, wait, what? Your actually saying that A. Women who write fantasy romance novels (mostly for women mind you) that have a very submissive perspective of what a women should feel and act like are only because of socities standards? That doesn't make sense. and B. Also it completey is the same reflection as yaoi and other things. I'm pretty sure most gay guys could tell you that yaoi is nothing like what it is to be a gay man in real life.
Umm are you new? Society is mostly run by men, white males and Chinese males in particular, (from what I noticed with the latter race,) in terms of the dollar in the world. It was stated in other threads; would you care about abortion on a personal level or homosexuality? Or would you consider gas costs over those two because they don't apply to you since you are a male, a straight male, and you wouldn't care less since they are "lesser troubles?" Or would you consider those two on a non bias level?
Women are considered under men in most countries even in this century. In China girls (just after they were born in some cases, not women but girls,) were killed off because of overpopulation and because they were considered weak at one point. In other parts of Asia women are either given less jail time or worse because they are women.
Why is this? I think it's because 1) Society is run by men and 2) If you take it in the bed or is a "catcher," you must be weak. (Or another kind of standard.) Which is why some men say "I ain't no punk because I don't take it like a woman, which makes me weak!"
I have no idea and I personally think it's stupid. There shouldn't be any sex or race that is above someone but sadly in this society it is. There is always an excuse or label to make a human being feel "better than someone."
Also I never said in any of my statements that it's the Chinese and white man's fault.
I said that most of the society world is run by these two in particular, which is true. Some of the richest men in the world are indeed, men, especially white men. Not all but a lot. We only had ONE black president you know since we were founded and some countries are just now getting women as political leaders.
China is behind the scenes in a lot of the corporations and the USA had so much outsourcing that politic parties wanted to campaign against it. So that shows that China has SOME power when it comes to the dollar in this world even if it's not obvious due to history reasons.
I think you got confused; women who write or read that stuff do it either as enjoyment or to escape but it doesn't mean that the women are like that in general; that is what I was saying. Women are not a reflection of shoujo; they just enjoy that stuff or else why not buy it? And the mighty dollar rules all.
Yaoi is mostly geared towards women who only watch it to enjoy 'feels' for hot men and sex which is why it's laughable since it's so unrealistic, but stuff like Sojou no Koi wa Nido Haneru can be read by anyone.
The same is with Shonen; the idea of being a hero and overcoming odds that gives a "Feel," is entertainment; it doesn't mean all men want to be heroes or want big boobed women or it's a reflection on how men are. That is what I was saying.
If women shouldn't buy shoujo since shoujo is making them appear "weak," and progression, then men shouldn't buy Shonen either and heck stop all manga while you are at it since all of it demeans something and make it super realistic.
God if that was the case anyone who reads and enjoys NTR.....-shakes head- Most people don't read or write manga to be realistic any more; they read it to escape and have "feels." There are some gems like Katawa shoujo, but that gets overrun by manga like Beezelbub, Fairy Tail, Naruto, Tons of June, etc.
I read yuri to be honest Sent and I'm a girl (I guess.) I don't read stuff like Junjou but Kyuuso wa Cheese no Yume o Miru
. Tell your buddy to read that; seems like he seen Gravitation and maybe Ouran.
This post has been edited by The Fujoshi: 15 October 2012 - 10:42 AM