Anime Central Forums: Language Learning - Anime Central Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Language Learning Advice

Poll: Learnding! (15 member(s) have cast votes)

Which of these do you think is better/more viable?

  1. Learning Language in a University (degree) (5 votes [22.73%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 22.73%

  2. Self-teaching/home schooling (3 votes [13.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.64%

  3. Immersion (home and/or abroad) (14 votes [63.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 63.64%

Vote Guests cannot vote

#1 User is offline   Ramza Beoulve 

  • Sempai
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Sempai
  • Member No.: 2974
  • Posts: 691
  • Joined: 07-September 04
  • Location:Chicago / Berwyn, IL / Elkhart County, IN

Posted 06 February 2012 - 11:54 AM

So, I'm thinking about going back to university to become a language interpreter/translator. I'm not really big on spending the next four years taking loads of courses that probably wont help me. So, from experience, is it better to go to school for language mastery, or is it better to learn on your own/through immersion etc? I want to be able to make a career of it, so I can travel and move around if need be. Any thoughts?

Also, being in debt would not be cool. -.-

This post has been edited by Ramza Beoulve: 06 February 2012 - 11:56 AM

Mom 2/5/1962-7/22/2006 <3
-Siempre en nuestras corazones-

Always remember the longer you live the sooner you'll bloody well die!

#2 User is offline   Stormy-chan 

  • Regular
  • PipPip
  • Group: Regular
  • Member No.: 51456
  • Posts: 125
  • Joined: 11-March 10
  • Location:Columbus, ohio

Posted 06 February 2012 - 12:12 PM

Everyone is different, what you should ask is what works for you :) If you have the self discipline to learn on your own, then that would certainly save you some money. I personally am an interactive learner for language so it is hard to learn a foreign language with out someone to help me. Even then I find it trying at times :) Since you wish to make a career out of it I would research what you need to make that a viable option as in Certificates or such showing you know and can express yourself in said language(s). Then see if there are online or local places you can go to study if needed and pass the required exams or what not.

I wish you luck and happy learning!

#3 User is offline   TaiyakiOni 

  • Sage
  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Sage
  • Member No.: 41763
  • Posts: 1,424
  • Joined: 21-October 09
  • Location:Gensokyo

Posted 06 February 2012 - 12:50 PM

A combination of the two isnt a bad idea. I took languages in college and then tried as hard as I could to immerse myself in them. Its hard with certain languages depending on your region. I sometimes to talk ro myself in different languages and watch foreign flicks without subtitles to test myself. I swear to you I am quite sane :P
The Oni of Taiyaki
Cosplays: YoumaCon 2012
Persona: Pyro Jack
Touhou Project: Yamame Kurodani, Ribbed Sweater Version
Touhou Project: Aya Shameimaru - Modern Day Version

#4 User is offline   Voxx 

  • Iron Chef
  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Iron Chef
  • Member No.: 16994
  • Posts: 6,129
  • Joined: 28-January 08
  • Location:On the Gangplank Galleon

Posted 06 February 2012 - 01:01 PM

I would say a mix between full immersion and have a formal language class. You can pick up learning the language better when you go abroad, but you won't really learn how to write the language that way. If you want to be an interpreter, I'm sure you will need to take some sort of class. A formal class, however, will teach you the proper way to speak the language, how to write it correctly, and use proper grammar. A mix of these two would be ideal so you know how to speak the language and write it. :)

I took Spanish and French in high school and continued French in college. Now I'm learning German. What language are you thinking about being an interpreter for?


"It'll just be a fact. An ugly, moist fact, squatting on your brain like an octopus.
And you don't want an octopus squatting on your brain, do you, son?"

~"Get your hands off my tail, you'll make it dirty"~

*~*~4,3,2,1 Earth Below Us, Drifting Falling, Floating Weightless, Calling Calling home. ~*~*
☜(⌒▽⌒)☞

#5 User is offline   basili1250 

  • Ace
  • PipPip
  • Group: Ace
  • Member No.: 51718
  • Posts: 257
  • Joined: 15-March 10
  • Location:Chicago, IL

Posted 06 February 2012 - 01:59 PM

Having taken 3 classes in Italian then studying abroad in Italy, I will tell you it didn't help much due to the high level of casual dialogue and slang that is used when actually speaking the language. My vote is full immersion with self-teaching because classes can make you learn at faster paces than you should be. Going slowly allows you to take your time and keep up personal interest.

Number one thing that made me hate studying italian was that we were going too fast...but I hope you do what you need more so than what others tell you when it comes to learning!! Good luck
Jacked up 'n' good t'go
____________________________________________
ACen 2009: Industrialized Steam Punk |____________
ACen 2010: Batou - first Ghost in the Shell film |
ACen 2011: Just me bein' me|


Facebook - Be sure to mention you're from the forums so I don't ignore you!

#6 User is offline   Rori 

  • Registration Staff
  • PipPip
  • Group: ACen Staff
  • Member No.: 4904
  • Posts: 130
  • Joined: 04-June 05
  • Location:Indianapolis

Posted 06 February 2012 - 05:32 PM

Probably a combination of both is best.

When I minored in Japanese, some of the lower level classes were kind of uninteresting and repetitive (I skipped a level because I decided to study some on my own), but the higher level courses were really interesting and useful.

And as with all languages, "if you don't use it, you lose it." So that is where the immersion would come in handy.
あなたが考えているほど世界はひどくないから。
Spam Poison

#7 User is offline   Ramza Beoulve 

  • Sempai
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Sempai
  • Member No.: 2974
  • Posts: 691
  • Joined: 07-September 04
  • Location:Chicago / Berwyn, IL / Elkhart County, IN

Posted 07 February 2012 - 05:33 PM

All very good answers. Fortunately, I retain most of what I learn in language pretty well. I'm not sure. Probably Spanish and Polish. I've studied other languages on my own and with the help of foreign friends as well. I've even tutored English to Chinese, Russian, Japanese, Korean and latin American folks. One guy didn't even know ANY English. I had to work with him for him to figure things out. It was a challenge but pretty fun (he spoke Algerian French). I think Spanish and Polish would be essential, because Spanish is widely used in the Americas as well as in Spain. Also, if I wanted to go to Europe Polish would help me because there are a lot of Polish immigrants in the UK now.

Also, I am partly Polish and from Chicago...so anyone from here knows there are a lot of Polish people here, that speak Polish. I took Spanish in Grade School and HS.

This post has been edited by Ramza Beoulve: 07 February 2012 - 05:34 PM

Mom 2/5/1962-7/22/2006 <3
-Siempre en nuestras corazones-

Always remember the longer you live the sooner you'll bloody well die!

#8 User is offline   GITS SAC Motoko 

  • Sage
  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Sage
  • Member No.: 19048
  • Posts: 1,715
  • Joined: 11-July 08
  • Location:The Apple store, talkin' Mac with my fellow Mac geeks.

Posted 08 February 2012 - 12:02 AM

Well immersion is ALWAYS the best way to learn a language. But if you want to get a formal interpreting job, you might need an actual college degree--and especially in our bad economy you need to look different and look more presentable to prove "you have education." It gives you the higher chances of getting a position. Just something to think about. Good luck!!!! You can dooooo it!! ^_^
Motoko Kusanagi is mah womanz. ;3
Cosplay for ACEN 2010, 2011, 2012: Major Motoko Kusanagi--Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd GIG

#9 User is offline   Ramza Beoulve 

  • Sempai
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Sempai
  • Member No.: 2974
  • Posts: 691
  • Joined: 07-September 04
  • Location:Chicago / Berwyn, IL / Elkhart County, IN

Posted 08 February 2012 - 03:15 PM

View PostGITS SAC Motoko, on 08 February 2012 - 12:02 AM, said:

Well immersion is ALWAYS the best way to learn a language. But if you want to get a formal interpreting job, you might need an actual college degree--and especially in our bad economy you need to look different and look more presentable to prove "you have education." It gives you the higher chances of getting a position. Just something to think about. Good luck!!!! You can dooooo it!! ^_^


Look different/presentable? o.o I am not a rumiant. ;D
Mom 2/5/1962-7/22/2006 <3
-Siempre en nuestras corazones-

Always remember the longer you live the sooner you'll bloody well die!

#10 User is offline   GITS SAC Motoko 

  • Sage
  • PipPipPipPip
  • Group: Sage
  • Member No.: 19048
  • Posts: 1,715
  • Joined: 11-July 08
  • Location:The Apple store, talkin' Mac with my fellow Mac geeks.

Posted 09 February 2012 - 06:59 PM

View PostRamza Beoulve, on 08 February 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

Look different/presentable? o.o I am not a rumiant. ;D

;D well I meant is as you look educated so people will hire you, lol. But good luck though I know you will succeed ^_^.
Motoko Kusanagi is mah womanz. ;3
Cosplay for ACEN 2010, 2011, 2012: Major Motoko Kusanagi--Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd GIG

#11 User is offline   ATICE 

  • Ace
  • PipPip
  • Group: Ace
  • Member No.: 58973
  • Posts: 319
  • Joined: 04-November 10
  • Location:Earth Realm

Posted 11 February 2012 - 02:50 AM

It doesn't matter if you're in a class or at home, you have to have the want and the motivation to learn a language.

I know of some very good books that have helped me a lot with a few languages...

http://www.amazon.co...28950165&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.co...28950223&sr=8-6


#12 User is offline   Ramza Beoulve 

  • Sempai
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Sempai
  • Member No.: 2974
  • Posts: 691
  • Joined: 07-September 04
  • Location:Chicago / Berwyn, IL / Elkhart County, IN

Posted 11 February 2012 - 12:54 PM

View PostATICE, on 11 February 2012 - 02:50 AM, said:

It doesn't matter if you're in a class or at home, you have to have the want and the motivation to learn a language.

I know of some very good books that have helped me a lot with a few languages...

http://www.amazon.co...28950165&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.co...28950223&sr=8-6


Its not that I have any difficulty learning languages. My concern was whether or not being self-taught or alternative methods for being taught were good enough to find work in the field of interpretation/translation. Teaching, may be a different story altogether. I'd have to take teaching courses as well.
Mom 2/5/1962-7/22/2006 <3
-Siempre en nuestras corazones-

Always remember the longer you live the sooner you'll bloody well die!

#13 User is offline   LadyTennant 

  • Newbie
  • Pip
  • Group: Newbie
  • Member No.: 61438
  • Posts: 21
  • Joined: 30-January 12
  • Location:Not in your closet...you dont even need to check. Just take my word for it. I'm NOT in your closet.

Posted 21 February 2012 - 05:27 PM

using both is key. any masters program in language requires immersion study abroad in addition to classes
ACen 2012--- Mizore Shirayuki- Rosario+Vampire

#14 User is offline   KayatoKun 

  • Newbie
  • Pip
  • Group: Newbie
  • Member No.: 59257
  • Posts: 12
  • Joined: 05-January 11

Posted 26 March 2012 - 04:48 AM

I'd say both would be best. I've been teaching myself Japanese for 5 years and I'm still not fluent because I cannot immerse myself. Depending on the language you want to learn I'd say to go to University for it because not only will you be formally taught the language but almost always they offer to study abroad.
私と一緒に優しくしてください!
ONE WORD COSPLAY MEMBER; LUCARIO SKYWALKER
ACen 2012 Lineup
Casual

♪~音楽は私のハートビートを行います。~♪
http://badasnew.deviantart.com/

#15 User is offline   Ramza Beoulve 

  • Sempai
  • PipPipPip
  • Group: Sempai
  • Member No.: 2974
  • Posts: 691
  • Joined: 07-September 04
  • Location:Chicago / Berwyn, IL / Elkhart County, IN

Posted 26 March 2012 - 10:43 AM

View PostKayatoKun, on 26 March 2012 - 04:48 AM, said:

I'd say both would be best. I've been teaching myself Japanese for 5 years and I'm still not fluent because I cannot immerse myself. Depending on the language you want to learn I'd say to go to University for it because not only will you be formally taught the language but almost always they offer to study abroad.


I got some Rosetta stone CDs :D
Mom 2/5/1962-7/22/2006 <3
-Siempre en nuestras corazones-

Always remember the longer you live the sooner you'll bloody well die!

#16 User is offline   chompzie 

  • Lurker
  • Pip
  • Group: Lurker
  • Member No.: 19314
  • Posts: 53
  • Joined: 28-August 08
  • Location:Milwaukee, WI

Posted 26 March 2012 - 08:07 PM

Interpretation is very different from regular translating (text-based) and I would recommend taking at least certificate courses specializing in interpretation. Real-time interpretation is one of the hardest things for a brain to do (interpreters for the UN only work in 15-minute shifts as their brains are fried by the end).

Rosetta Stone and self-taught courses may be good in the beginning but to become a good interpreter you will need to immerse yourself in the language and take interpretation courses/get certified.

Translating is easier, you have time to sit down and work out how to best translate. You can use resources. Translators usually (but not always) only translate in one direction.

Interpreters must translate both ways, do so orally, in real-time without references.

If you just want to do translation, self-teaching will be fine (until you need to get fluent). If you really want to be an interpreter, I'd seriously consider looking into colleges or certificate programs near you. A lot of private colleges also offer substantial amounts of financial aid. If I was going to a public school I'd be paying double out of pocket what I'm paying now AND be in more debt after I graduate. As it is I am in a private, accredited, well-respected University paying $800 a semester and will graduate with less than $12,000 in student loans.

It's something to consider.

I used to want to be an interpreter, so I did a lot of research a few years ago on the topic. Now I'm gonna be a Global Studies major/Asian studies minor studying Chinese, Japanese, and German... to be some sort of international guest liaison or something idk. I just know I want to travel and that I'm going to have to go abroad to China and Japan before graduating to fully immerse myself (study abroad required for both programs I'm in).
ACen Cosplay Progress
ACen 2013 - Friday (Lacus Clyne, 100%); Saturday (Espeon - Sweet Lolita Version, 0%)
ACen 2014 - Will be studying abroad in Japan! No ACen for me!

#17 User is offline   myrla 

  • Ace
  • PipPip
  • Group: Ace
  • Member No.: 60134
  • Posts: 211
  • Joined: 04-May 11
  • Location:Austin, TX

Posted 26 March 2012 - 10:30 PM

I'm self teaching myself Portuguese (after 6 years of Spanish in HS/College), and my reading and writing is awesome, and my accent is good, but my spoken dialogue is very slow. I subscribe to papers online in Portuguese, I follow Portuguese football, and so I watch the games in Portuguese.

It depends on what works for you. I am still trying to take classes, but doing a lot on my own is helping.
ACEN 2012 Cosplay: Doctor Who: Tooth and Claw Rose (Friday) | Firefly: Inara (Saturday) | Lolita (Sunday)
Panelist: Final Fantasy MMORPG

ACEN 2011 Cosplay:
Tooth and Claw Rose (Doctor Who) accompanying Ten | Miwako (Paradise Kiss) accompanying Howl
Luna Lovegood (Harry Potter) accompanying a poor lost Gryffindor
Panelist: Final Fantasy MMORPG

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users