[KungPowKirby]

Animexcel, on 08 June 2010 - 04:19 PM, said:

How could anyone talk on the phone for 24 hours? How about lunch, dinner and taking a poo?

You could do that while on the phone theoretically. I once talked on the phone with a guy for 4 hours straight without even knowing him... actually we did that more than once.

[Valkyrie]

sentinel28a, on 08 June 2010 - 03:48 PM, said:

But women shouldn't be offended if a guy, especially "their" guy, occasionally is distracted by knockers straining valiantly to be set free from the Hooters Girl T-shirt. We're biologically programmed to look. However, if the guy goes over and does a Miroku ("Will you bear my child?" *grabs butt*) or Happosai ("What a haul!" *grabs boobs*), then he deserves for "his" girl to use a cheese grater on his face, or on other pieces of his anatomy if he's running around on her.

Women supposedly are biologically programmed to be attracted to the smell of men's sweat, but I call BS on that--otherwise there'd be a lot more action going on at ACen. But I'm good friends with a woman who's happily married, and he doesn't mind when she talks about the hunks she meets at her job--nor does she mind when the talk gets a little earthy at the game table or I'm over there drawing naked female gargoyles. (Don't ask.)

I think people just need to relax some. You gotta be friends before you can be lovers. Me...I'll settle for a girl to talk dirty to me.

Ben Da Mad Irishman
"Excel cusses me out sometimes"

See, I know my hubby looks. And he knows I look. Because really, as long as it's just looking (as in a glance), and no touching or staring involved, it's cool. In fact, we amuse each other with it, and joke around about it. I may be a Scorpio, but I'm not so jealous that the second I see him checking out another girl (or admiring a woman's tracts of land in a new manga/hentai he's found), I whip out the frying pan and go to town. I'd sooner check it out myself and see what the fuss is all about~

On the sweat thing - yes and no. It's not so much the sweat as it is the pheromones within the sweat. Different people are attracted to different pheromones. However, the reason you might call BS on that is because body odor - the bad kind - is caused by bacteria in said sweat, which may hinder whatever effect said pheromones might have.

Which is why certain geniuses developed this to help with this form of biological warfare.

And I may or may not be speaking from experience on this, but yes, that stuff actually does help you smell like the man your girl's man should smell like. ^^

[XenoBlade]

Saphrinka, on 08 June 2010 - 04:24 PM, said:

See, I know my hubby looks. And he knows I look. Because really, as long as it's just looking (as in a glance), and no touching or staring involved, it's cool. In fact, we amuse each other with it, and joke around about it. I may be a Scorpio, but I'm not so jealous that the second I see him checking out another girl (or admiring a woman's tracts of land in a new manga/hentai he's found), I whip out the frying pan and go to town. I'd sooner check it out myself and see what the fuss is all about~

On the sweat thing - yes and no. It's not so much the sweat as it is the pheromones within the sweat. Different people are attracted to different pheromones. However, the reason you might call BS on that is because body odor - the bad kind - is caused by bacteria in said sweat, which may hinder whatever effect said pheromones might have.

Which is why certain geniuses developed this to help with this form of biological warfare.

And I may or may not be speaking from experience on this, but yes, that stuff actually does help you smell like the man your girl's man should smell like. ^^

Lol, that video. I understand the point of it, but lol that guy and how he stood. Is that how "attractive males" are suppose to stand? Looks like was a victim of a horrible prison shower scene. lol XD

[Voxx]

Animexcel, on 08 June 2010 - 04:19 PM, said:

How could anyone talk on the phone for 24 hours? How about lunch, dinner and taking a poo?..well i guess you can take a poo while talking on the phone.

It was during the summer lol We had nothing else to do and we ate at home or drove somewhere and talked on our cell phones.If we had to go to the bathroom we would set down our phones but not turn them off. My mom talks to her friends while shes in the bathroom and I know a lot of people that do that...but thats just...weird. Then if our phones died we would just sit by our charger. <Dedicated. Lame isnt it? lol

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[Keiichi-chan]

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Women supposedly are biologically programmed to be attracted to the smell of men's sweat, but I call BS on that--otherwise there'd be a lot more action going on at ACen.

there is a surprisingly amount of action happening during acen, actually...

the whole gripe about physical attractiveness, people are ignoring that what people find physically attractive depends on the person. yes, there are the cliche guys who just like whatever
blonde girl with a giant rack is within reach, but...do you really want to be with a guy with such bland and boring taste in the first place? people find different things physically attractive and people who aren't totally shallow grow more attracted to girls with a personality
they find really appealing.

as for unattractive guys, guys tend to complain about girls not drooling over them instead of improving or learning to play to their strengths. if you're not a stud who can get girls based solely on your looks, maybe you should, i dunno, develop a charming personality? or an attractive fashion sense? an attractive sense of humor? grooming yourself well can improve your physical attractiveness A LOT!

a lot of guys complain because they're being hypocrites: they want a girl who's a super model, but willing to overlook their own lack of physical appeal. if you're totally shallow in looking for a significant other, do you really expect other people not to be? you do a lot more dating and a lot less complaining over not getting dates when you're willing to grow and adapt into the kind of man that women are willing to date.

This post has been edited by Keiichi-chan: 08 June 2010 - 07:50 PM

[Keiichi-chan]

@xeno, women are cruel, definitely.
but a lot of the dateless guys at acen could easily have a girlfriend if they were more willing to compromise.

some guys just get screwed over because they're naive, but definitely a lot of guys get rejected or are single because of stubborness alone; they're genuinely not ready to be in a relationship with another person.
women don't usually have that problem since they can find dates regardless of whether they're emotionally ready to maintain a relationship or not.

This post has been edited by Keiichi-chan: 08 June 2010 - 08:08 PM

[XenoBlade]

Keiichi-chan, on 08 June 2010 - 07:39 PM, said:

as for unattractive guys, guys tend to complain about girls not drooling over them instead of improving or learning to play to their strengths. if you're not a stud who can get girls based solely on your looks, maybe you should, i dunno, develop a charming personality? or an attractive fashion sense? an attractive sense of humor? grooming yourself well can improve your physical attractiveness A LOT!

Mah boi, I can't believed you overlooked the "HEY! I'M NOT THAT HOT GUY WITH A SIX PACK, BUT I'M REALLY NICE AND I'LL BE THERE FOR YOU ALWAYS!!!" lol That right there is usually the "substitute" for not being too attractive. That, and most (if not the brooding hate life types) have the bright personality, and for those who aren't apathetic, most are well groome...okay well SOME are decently groomed. MOst of the time the situation is they ARE all of that, but it's something missing. It doesn't help when every female friend also proclaims "you are so awesome!" But what does that truly mean? It's things like that, that is really confusing and which leads many guys astray. What more can you do? If you are actively trying, taking care of yourself, and being a very likable person?

[Ranko]

XenoBlade, on 08 June 2010 - 08:14 PM, said:

Mah boi, I can't believed you overlooked the "HEY! I'M NOT THAT HOT GUY WITH A SIX PACK, BUT I'M REALLY NICE AND I'LL BE THERE FOR YOU ALWAYS!!!" lol That right there is usually the "substitute" for not being too attractive. That, and most (if not the brooding hate life types) have the bright personality, and for those who aren't apathetic, most are well groome...okay well SOME are decently groomed. MOst of the time the situation is they ARE all of that, but it's something missing. It doesn't help when every female friend also proclaims "you are so awesome!" But what does that truly mean? It's things like that, that is really confusing and which leads many guys astray. What more can you do? If you are actively trying, taking care of yourself, and being a very likable person?

I think I fit into that forgotten category lol, but then I've since given up trying. High school took my self-esteem away and smashed it on the floor. I just can't take anymore lol... that's why I tend to shy away from social interaction with females, because they tend to run away from it with me.

[XenoBlade]

Ranko, on 08 June 2010 - 08:40 PM, said:

I think I fit into that forgotten category lol, but then I've since given up trying. High school took my self-esteem away and smashed it on the floor. I just can't take anymore lol... that's why I tend to shy away from social interaction with females, because they tend to run away from it with me.

Question as someone who tend to analyze too much for his own good *facepalms self* are you sure you've given up? Getting sour about a situation usually is a sign of still caring. And trust me man, I understand all too well what you feel and felt. I general steer away from social interaction with females as I believe it'll just be a waste of my time, but I'm slowly curing myself of that. I actually get into some random conversation with females, and to the point I even escorted one (during acen) from my friend's room, to the lobby to see her off. (when normally I would just stay to myself and let her walk alone.)

My point coming is, that if you assume they will just run from you, because they may have done that at high school, then they will. Why? Because you are already pushing them away. You have to throw yourself out there. Also most importantly, expect NOTHING. No it's nothing being pessimistic, it's just that you won't go in thinking "I'm defintely getting a girlfriend from this." You can however, expect to at least make a new female friend. Because I really don't know any female that will deny a new friendship. (If they deny you on looks, then stay away from them. They have issues and don't deserve to have anyone in their life.)

But you can't win a battle, if you won't enter the battlefield, much less defeat yourself first.

[Keiichi-chan]

XenoBlade, on 08 June 2010 - 08:14 PM, said:

Mah boi, I can't believed you overlooked the "HEY! I'M NOT THAT HOT GUY WITH A SIX PACK, BUT I'M REALLY NICE AND I'LL BE THERE FOR YOU ALWAYS!!!" lol That right there is usually the "substitute" for not being too attractive. That, and most (if not the brooding hate life types) have the bright personality, and for those who aren't apathetic, most are well groome...okay well SOME are decently groomed. MOst of the time the situation is they ARE all of that, but it's something missing. It doesn't help when every female friend also proclaims "you are so awesome!" But what does that truly mean? It's things like that, that is really confusing and which leads many guys astray. What more can you do? If you are actively trying, taking care of yourself, and being a very likable person?

most guys like that aren't well-groomed or anything, or even nice half the time. they're just shy and passive. then there are the guys who are sweet, and as soon as they actually GET the girl, they become cocky or the stress of maintaining a relationship, instead of just fantasizing about one, gets to them and they become more of a jerk than they ever thought they would. a lot of guys see themselves as--most people see themselves as 'nice' but that doesn't mean they really are. no one goes around seeing themselves as a 'bad' guy.

and yeah, i guess girls tend to want more than being there. and like i said many times before,girls tend to get turned off by a guy who's always there for them even before they're a couple. where's the challenge? where's the payoff they get from winning a guy over? a guy who falls for you super-quickly will probably fall for ANY girl quickly, and girls tend to like feeling like
they're special, dude..

i'm saying, many guys who see themselves as 'nice guys' are just shy jerks. because they're shy and subtle about they're jerkness, they don't think they're jerks, but mark my words..they are douchebags like loud obnoxious guys are douchebags and half of the time, women can tell. i think overall, most women want a guy who is nice, but also one who is FUN. sometimes it's a lot easier to just date a guy who is fun and kind of a jerk than date a guy who is boring but nice. i dunno. i'm not a girl.

This post has been edited by Keiichi-chan: 08 June 2010 - 09:04 PM

[XenoBlade]

Keiichi-chan, on 08 June 2010 - 08:57 PM, said:

most guys like that aren't well-groomed or anything, or even nice half the time. they're just shy and passive. then there are the guys who are sweet, and as soon as they actually GET the girl, they become cocky or the stress of maintaining a relationship, instead of just fantasizing about one, gets to them and they become more of a jerk than they ever thought they would. a lot of guys see themselves as--most people see themselves as 'nice' but that doesn't mean they really are. no one goes around seeing themselves as a 'bad' guy.

and yeah, i guess girls tend to want more than being there. and like i said many times before,girls tend to get turned off by a guy who's always there for them even before they're a couple. where's the challenge? where's the payoff they get from winning a guy over? a guy who falls for you super-quickly will probably fall for ANY girl quickly, and girls tend to like feeling like
they're special, dude..

i'm saying, many guys who see themselves as 'nice guys' are just shy jerks. because they're shy and subtle about they're jerkness, they don't think they're jerks, but mark my words..they are douchebags like loud obnoxious guys are douchebags and half of the time, women can tell. i think overall, most women want a guy who is nice, but also one who is FUN. sometimes it's a lot easier to just date a guy who is fun and kind of a jerk than date a guy who is boring but nice. i dunno. i'm not a girl.

Oh no, I know. lol It was a rhetorical question. lol

[Foolish Humon]

Hey fellas are we all enjoying girl talk?

I am aware of most of my short comings as a person, some of which I try to fix and others I just don't know how to fix. For example I am a boring person, I don't know cool things to do or fun activities to do and that does upset me because I would like to be a fun guy to be with. This is one of the reasons why I don't really try to date, I would like to but I know I shouldn't because I am just setting myself up for another blow to my self esteem. Plus it doesn't help that I have no idea as to how or where I could meet someone that I would like. My predicament is if I should try to ignore my flaws and try to better myself or if I should just embrace my flaws and try to work around them. I am by no means a catch but like they say if you don't think you are a catch than no one else will, am I just facing the truth or am I getting down on myself. Not everyone in the world is a catch, but should everyone think they are? One of my current dilemmas is I don't know if I should focus my time and money on trying to better myself (physically and emotionally) to find a girl or if I should just focus on my hobbies and work and hope I meet someone along the way. Blah blah blah...

[Keiichi-chan]

Foolish Humon, on 08 June 2010 - 09:33 PM, said:

Hey fellas are we all enjoying girl talk?

definitely! tee-hee.

a lot of people feel that if you focus on yourself and are happy and enjoying life, people, not
just girls, are naturally attracted to you. i think that's true. most people feel insecure secretly
and when someone walks by who seems confident and like they have it all together, then shows interest
in YOU, it probably does seem pretty appealing.

[KungPowKirby]

My "flaw" is the obvious. Guys will give up the great girlfriend (with a gorgous face) for the skinny waist. They could be good or bad but given the choice between the two they will choose, 99% of the time, B. And 99% that choose A, womanizing & no belts

[KungPowKirby]

It is more like 90% are womanizing no belters. Then there is the 5% who I wont date, because he is the needy whinny i will be in mommas lap my whole life and/or I look like Quasi. That leaves 5% of the little to no male population that would date me.

[KungPowKirby]

Also we cant forget the Im old enough to be your father guys and the "I dont want people to know my buisness guys" aka usually means Im embarrased or Im hiding something. Mind you, some guys are just private, but usually theres a reason for it. Either way, I thought Id let the boys see it from my perspective.

This post has been edited by kungpowkirby: 09 June 2010 - 05:51 AM

[Kasin]

why would any one dump some one for a skinny person?

No offense to skinny people, same thing goes for skinny girls being dumped for thick girls.

or apple bottoms for hourglass for top heavy for etc.

IDK, a body changes...alot, and attraction matters, but so does personality. They had to find that person attractive at one point, I mean they had to if they got with them to begin with. I don't get people...

[KungPowKirby]

My thoughts exactly. But its more or less I cant get them to date me period. When I do meet someone decent the distance is usually to much. I cant win anymore...

[Kasin]

awww, that sucks

[Stkbayfield]

Reading through this thread has been quite fascinating. Given my Y chromosome, I wont stick about very long here, but did want to leave a note to those cynical about long distance relationships. I happened to be in one for 3 years with a woman I knew for about 4 years before our online relationship began. We saw one another 2 times per year, once in winter and once in summer. Somehow we kept it together and to date have been married for 2 years. No cheating or mis-deeds on either side.

Sometimes it does work out

[Voxx]

Kasin, on 09 June 2010 - 03:25 AM, said:

why would any one dump some one for a skinny person?

No offense to skinny people, same thing goes for skinny girls being dumped for thick girls.

or apple bottoms for hourglass for top heavy for etc.

I dont get why anyone would break up with someone just because of their body. Youd think that wouldnt be the deciding factor ya know? I've dated super skinny and tall to shorter and round and my breakups with them wasnt about their body lol I just think that would be ridiculous.

Some people are attracted to different body types and features, which theres nothing wrong with but if you dont give others a chance because they arent the chiseled god you want then theres something wrong. My fiancé used to have a six even 8 pack when he was on the swim team and swam everyday and doesnt swim anymore so its gotten to be more round but I'm not going to break up with him because of that!

Stkbayfield, on 09 June 2010 - 10:44 AM, said:

Reading through this thread has been quite fascinating. Given my Y chromosome, I wont stick about very long here, but did want to leave a note to those cynical about long distance relationships. I happened to be in one for 3 years with a woman I knew for about 4 years before our online relationship began. We saw one another 2 times per year, once in winter and once in summer. Somehow we kept it together and to date have been married for 2 years. No cheating or mis-deeds on either side.

Sometimes it does work out

Wow!!! Congrats! Thats always good to hear. ^.^

[sentinel28a]

Yeah, so much for girl talk, but ladies...it helps to know your enemy. Well, at least the sitcoms tell me men are the enemy. Not that I watch sitcoms or anything. (Really. I don't. Just NCIS and Deadliest Catch. Well...and Deadliest Warrior too. I'm a historian, for the love of Miyazaki!)

Keiichi brings up some good points. I'm firmly in the "I give up" category of dating, but for me, it's mainly because I do realize that I'm probably not in the right spot for a relationship. I like my privacy. I like the fact that I pretty much do what I want when I want.

Maybe that puts me in Keiichi's "shy jerk" category, but I'm old enough to realize that, right now, a woman would vastly complicate my life. Sure, I get lonely, but it's not the right time. It may never be the time. I'm probably the oldest mofo on this board, and I'm not getting any younger. But, oh well. If there's a woman out there for me, we'll find each other. If not, no biggie. I find no reason to define the success of my life according to how many women I've slept with or how many relationships I've been in. And I used to know guys who did exactly that. My first roomie in college thought I was a loser because I didn't go out to bars every weekend and try to get laid.

Ben Da Mad Irishman
"More like Miss Yukari than ever"

This post has been edited by sentinel28a: 09 June 2010 - 03:18 PM

[Ranko]

sentinel28a, on 09 June 2010 - 03:16 PM, said:

Yeah, so much for girl talk, but ladies...it helps to know your enemy. Well, at least the sitcoms tell me men are the enemy. Not that I watch sitcoms or anything. (Really. I don't. Just NCIS and Deadliest Catch. Well...and Deadliest Warrior too. I'm a historian, for the love of Miyazaki!)

Keiichi brings up some good points. I'm firmly in the "I give up" category of dating, but for me, it's mainly because I do realize that I'm probably not in the right spot for a relationship. I like my privacy. I like the fact that I pretty much do what I want when I want.

Maybe that puts me in Keiichi's "shy jerk" category, but I'm old enough to realize that, right now, a woman would vastly complicate my life. Sure, I get lonely, but it's not the right time. It may never be the time. I'm probably the oldest mofo on this board, and I'm not getting any younger. But, oh well. If there's a woman out there for me, we'll find each other. If not, no biggie. I find no reason to define the success of my life according to how many women I've slept with or how many relationships I've been in. And I used to know guys who did exactly that. My first roomie in college thought I was a loser because I didn't go out to bars every weekend and try to get laid.

Ben Da Mad Irishman
"More like Miss Yukari than ever"

Is there a category for demoralized hopeless dreamers?

[XenoBlade]

kungpowkirby, on 09 June 2010 - 02:40 AM, said:

My "flaw" is the obvious. Guys will give up the great girlfriend (with a gorgous face) for the skinny waist. They could be good or bad but given the choice between the two they will choose, 99% of the time, B. And 99% that choose A, womanizing & no belts

Same thing applies for women too. no matter how you cut it, both sexes view being overweight as a bad thing.

And yeah this isn't girl talk, it's just now complain about relationships talk. lol

Ranko, on 09 June 2010 - 05:00 PM, said:

Is there a category for demoralized hopeless dreamers?

Yeah, they are called the "don't try" people.

[Ranko]

XenoBlade, on 09 June 2010 - 05:17 PM, said:

Yeah, they are called the "don't try" people.

Figured there may have been something different, guess not.... cause regardless of what I say, or what you say, as we same to be saying the same thing right now... I'm going to keep trying, until my spirit is completely gone.

[Voxx]

XenoBlade, on 09 June 2010 - 05:17 PM, said:

And yeah this isn't girl talk, it's just now complain about relationships talk. lol

So not true...

I havent had my period since Acen! WUUUHHHH girl talk.

[sentinel28a]

Ranko, on 09 June 2010 - 05:26 PM, said:

Figured there may have been something different, guess not.... cause regardless of what I say, or what you say, as we same to be saying the same thing right now... I'm going to keep trying, until my spirit is completely gone.

If you want a relationship, pursue it. If not, don't sweat it.

I would call my category "Foamy the Squirrel" category.

Ben Da Mad Irishman
"As opposed to 'Pillsy'"

[sentinel28a]

Ska_Toranpetta, on 09 June 2010 - 05:32 PM, said:

So not true...

I havent had my period since Acen! WUUUHHHH girl talk.

So...is that bad?

I want to make the "bleed for three days" joke, but someone might go all on me.

I feel for you ladies. That's why God made it so men are rendered into frothing idiots at the sight of bewbs--as compensation for you girls having to go through menstruation. And mammograms.

Ben Da Mad Irishman
"Guys get...let's not talk about what guys get"

[Ranko]

sentinel28a, on 09 June 2010 - 05:33 PM, said:

If you want a relationship, pursue it. If not, don't sweat it.

I would call my category "Foamy the Squirrel" category.

Ben Da Mad Irishman
"As opposed to 'Pillsy'"

I'm trying, I've been attempting to build up my confidence ever since I moved to Chicago-land... but with the roommates I've been stuck with, and their constant putdowns... it's hard, lol, however I am trying. Oh and I do apologize for the depressing nature of some of my posts.. I'm slightly bi-polar, so random mood-swings and what not. I am however a rather happy person overall, minus the roommates.

This post has been edited by Ranko: 09 June 2010 - 05:38 PM

[linlindesu]

I wish I could place my own lil complicated relationship whine session in here but alas, I cannot....
I'm sort of beginning to give up like half of the males in this thread. I feel like a dirt bag saying this but it seems I just can't connect with the people trying to connect with me lately.
I have decent reasons though. Most of them have no good explanation to why they like me other than my looks. That really REALLY bugs me ( mainly because I am not a super model so is my personality really that awful?)
And I used to really like women but that is just a road I do not see myself going down again in the near future ( TO ALL THE LADIES: next time you want to complain about men , date a really dramatic woman and compare. Then try to proceed with your complaining.. )
I have something gong on currently which I really cannot complain about on here... if I could I would be a - whining away right about now XD