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Japanese Architecture Tatami mats, paper walls, and why all schools look the same

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 10:04 PM

Hey everybody!

I was waiting to make this post until after I was sure my panel had been approved but since it is taking so long I decided to throw it out there now. My panel is about Japanese Architecture, specifically focusing on traditional buildings (houses, shrines, temples) and the like. I will be explaining various aspects of Japanese architecture; a brief history, the use of natural materials like paper and wood, the special joinery used, the proportioning systems employed, room parts, uses & layouts. I will be using examples from anime and the real world to illustrate these points. My hope is that afterwards you guys and gals will have a better understanding of Japanese buildings and thus understand why certain things are the way they are in anime. I am also considering adding common localities used in anime for the same reason.

The presentation will be a slide show with images. I also plan to build an architectural scale model of a Japanese house with working parts. No time, maybe next year

Please add anything else you want to learn about, especially if it will light up the little light bulb and go "Aha, now I know why they did that!" Below is my current outline. Also tell me if there is anything else you want explained.

Acen 2010 Japanese Architecture Panel Outline

Intro
-Purpose of panel to aid in better understanding locations in anime & interest in traditional Japanese architecture

-Listing of topics

Brief history of Japanese Architecture
-Role of master builder/craftsman
-Evolution of building form

Materials
-Use of native materials; wood, stone, clay, paper
-Specialized tools for working materials

Detailing
-Joinery
-Decorative

Spatial Design
-Proportion
---Human Proportion
---Modulus
---Standard Dimensions
-Room layouts
-Room Uses
---Multi use rooms
---Entry
---Bathroom
---Kitchen
---Tea House
-Room Parts
---Post and beam structure
---Tatami
---Shoji/Fusama
---Alcove
---Closet
---Furnishings
-----Low Tables
-----Cushion Seats
-----Futons
-----Kotatsu
-----Lighting
-----Climate Control
-Proximities

Common Localities (optional)
-Modern Housing; single and multi
-Schools
-Shinto Shrines
-Shopping District
-Inn/Onsen
-Public Bath
-Japanese City Planning
-Tokyo Tower

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 10:14 PM

Sounds Interesting depending on my work schedule and need for sleep I would stop by. I'm planning to make my next visit to Japan as shrine and temple tour of the country.
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Posted 23 March 2010 - 11:34 AM

This sounds really interesting, and well put together. I'll try to stop by if it does not interfere with any of the panels or photo shoots i'm involved in.
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Posted 23 March 2010 - 11:39 AM

I'm with the others... this sounds so interesting! I'd love to see the pictures as well as the model. I was going to add something about the shrines, but I see you've got that covered already.
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Posted 23 March 2010 - 10:35 PM

I wonder if you could talk about the original Temple at Nara that houses the great Buddha statue. It is smaller now than it was long ago, and its enormous now. I would like to understand how they managed to build it with the tools of yore.
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Posted 24 March 2010 - 08:35 PM

View PostSuigetsu, on Mar 23 2010, 10:35 PM, said:

I wonder if you could talk about the original Temple at Nara that houses the great Buddha statue. It is smaller now than it was long ago, and its enormous now. I would like to understand how they managed to build it with the tools of yore.



Yeah, if you guys want a section on real buildings I'm sure I could squeeze it in. That particular temple is called the Toudai-ji. Let me know what other specific buildings I should use as examples, there are enough shrines and temples and such to do an entire panel on them.
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Posted 24 March 2010 - 09:57 PM

I wouldn't miss it.
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Posted 25 March 2010 - 11:08 AM

is civil engineer
is all about this panel
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Posted 25 March 2010 - 04:21 PM

I also wouldn't mind something on Itsukushima on Miyajima. The Phoenix Pavilion in Kyoto is good, but if you want something about modern, I think you should bring up the Kyoto Train Station. That is a metal marvel is ever there was one.
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Posted 02 April 2010 - 01:43 PM

Well, the panel has been denied due to the lack of space. I had hoped that I would get in due to the educational nature of the panel, and the breadth of content I would have as opposed to the show specific nature of many of the other panels; but alas, it was not to be. I guess I'll just have to write a book instead.
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Posted 02 April 2010 - 09:48 PM

Try again next year. That panel sounds fascinating.
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Posted 08 April 2010 - 04:28 PM

This truly is a sad day.
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Posted 08 April 2010 - 08:56 PM

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 08:43 AM

Panel has risen from the dead! Yatta :clap: ! You may now continue with supplying more input. I've noticed from the comments so far that many people want info about real structures. My plan is to present elements that can be found in most traditional buildings, using examples from anime and real buildings to illustrate their application. It's going to be more that just a presentation of buildings, but of the design intent and other forces that drive the form-giving, space-making qualities present. However, if there is an overwhelming desire to have real-world examples, then I shall supply.
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Posted 11 April 2010 - 09:15 AM

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Posted 11 April 2010 - 09:28 AM

View Postcatbert, on Apr 11 2010, 09:43 AM, said:

Panel has risen from the dead! Yatta :clap: ! You may now continue with supplying more input. I've noticed from the comments so far that many people want info about real structures. My plan is to present elements that can be found in most traditional buildings, using examples from anime and real buildings to illustrate their application. It's going to be more that just a presentation of buildings, but of the design intent and other forces that drive the form-giving, space-making qualities present. However, if there is an overwhelming desire to have real-world examples, then I shall supply.


They needed to approve the panel in the first round.

But, now that it is approved, I know two people that will be attending. Me and my friend. This sounds like a great panel.

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 10:37 AM

OK, according to the schedule, the panel will be at 3:30p on Saturday in Panel Programming 7: Donald E. Stephens Convention Center Hall E (120). If you can make it, please come!
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 10:52 AM

Oh... I may not be able to make it! I'm glad your panel made it in, though--the read-through was very interesting!

If you do end up writing a book on it, let us know.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 10:56 AM

Yay, I might attend this

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 10:58 AM

I'll be there. This is the panel for Saturday for me, aka I'm working my sleep schedule around it.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 11:28 AM

i'm very happy to see this panel was approved.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 11:40 AM

View Postjsieczkar, on Apr 12 2010, 11:58 AM, said:

I'll be there. This is the panel for Saturday for me, aka I'm working my sleep schedule around it.

Same here.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 04:34 PM

That's fantastic news. I'll be sure to be there.

Now why can't I find Hall E on the Stephens map?
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 04:49 PM

View PostDave, on Apr 12 2010, 06:34 PM, said:

That's fantastic news. I'll be sure to be there.

Now why can't I find Hall E on the Stephens map?

Hall E if it is the same as before is the back part of Hall A where we had programing two years ago, it is not labeled.
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Posted 12 April 2010 - 07:00 PM

Drat! I'm working at that time. Good news is... I'm in Hall A....

maybe....

Those are probably the rooms near the "back" of Hall A, and yes I recall them being used a couple years ago.

I have been trying to find Japanese "house plan" books in English. Would love to know more.

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Posted 12 April 2010 - 09:04 PM

Thanks. I knew it had to be there somewhere.
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Posted 19 April 2010 - 09:17 PM

New timing update, panel now runs from 3:00p-4:30p, still in Hall E. Also an update to the outline, I will be breaking it down by time period; looking at houses, temples, shrines and castles of each period, how they evolved, and how the designs are descriptive of the culture of the era. Following comes a section on common locations seen in anime, both historical and modern.

-Intro
-Information shared by all eras (material, layouts, etc)
-Periods
---Heian (794-1185) Height of the Imperial Court
---Kamakura (1185-1333) First Shogunate
---Muromachi (1336-1573) Warring States Period
---Edo (1603-1868) Tokugawa Shougunate and last premodern period
-Common Anime Locations
-Conclusion and Questions

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Posted 02 May 2010 - 05:40 PM

OK, I've got the history section complete, here is the list of buildings I have chosen for their architectural, cultural or iconic importance.

[Pre-Heian] Izumo-taisha, Toudai-ji, Houryuu-ji
[Heian] Ise-Jingu, Heian-kyo, Byoudou-in, Enryaku-ji
[Kamakura] Sanju-sangen-go, Itsukushima Jinja
[Muromachi] Kinkaku-ji, Ginkaku-ji, Himeji-jo
[Momoyama] Azuchi-jo, Fushima-jo, Osaka-jo
[Edo] Edo-jo, Nikko Shrines, Kyoto Gosho

That's four shrines, seven temples, two palaces and five castles.

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All sections except Common Localities Seen in Anime have been completed

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 02:20 PM

I won't be able to attend ACen, due to money issues and the school year, but I'm genuinely interested in this panel. Could someone record a video of it and upload it to YouTube (or something)? Really, I'd love to be able to see it.

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Posted 04 May 2010 - 02:23 PM

Can't wait till this. The line-up looks terrific. I won't be able to record this, but I hope someone else could.
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