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How Much Should I Save? A general guide on what you may spend at ACen (updated for 2011!)

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Post icon  Posted 02 September 2009 - 08:10 AM

(TL;DR alert! This post is divided into sections for your reading convenience.)

"How much should I save for ACen?"
(mostly) updated for 2011!

Now that the room block and pre-registration is open, this question is going to pop up a lot. The truth is, there's really no set-in-stone answer to this question--it mostly depends on how you prepare for potential expenses, how you handle spending money at con, whether or not you decide to join staff, and where/whether you get a hotel.

Granted, you can probably save a ton of cash if you volunteer to be on staff because some of them get free rooms, food, and badges and what not, but this advice is for those who are paying for everything more than it is for those who staff or gofer. Also, this advice is mainly based on my own personal habits and experience, and is only valid for this year (because prices can change every year; I'll try to come back and make updates every year ^_^). However, I'd appreciate input from experienced others if I leave any important tips out.


*Weekend Badge
$45 if you pre-register and pay on the website during the first tier, $35 if you pre-register and pay at the Road Show tour, $50 if you pre-register and pay in time for the second tier, $55 for the last tier, and $55 for Will Call/At-Con. If you want your badge mailed, add $2 to any of those prices except Will Call/At-Con. Registration tier rates and dates are here.
(Thanks to Oreo Otaku for correcting me about the tiers!)
The "and pay" part is important (which is why I keep mentioning it). Even if you pre-register today, if you don't pay until the last tier you'll have to pay the last tier price. If you pre-reg but don't pay at all, you'll have to pay the Will Call/At-Con price when you pick up your badge.

TIP: If you have 10 or more friends coming with you and one of you is responsible enough to handle dealing out the badges, there is a group discount available.


*Hotel
A king or double standard room is $560 for 3 nights (Thursday-Sunday) at the Hyatt for 1 to 4 people^ (this cost includes the 13% tax and hotel fees). For 2 nights it's $373 for 1 to 4 people^. I have only ever stayed at the Hyatt, so I can't advise you on the other hotels in the area.
It's good to know that when you book your room (at least at the Hyatt), there is nothing you have to pay at that moment. You can also cancel your reservation for no charge if you decide to go with another hotel or not to go at all, as long as you do it before April 20, 2010. There is a lovely Hotel FAQ now--you should have a visit.

IMPORTANT!!--Remember to have $187 (the equivalent of one night + 13% taxes and fees) in your credit/debit card account ready to be deducted at least a month before the convention! That's when your non-refundable deposit fee kicks in (Hyatt actually charges two weeks before, but a month should keep you covered) . Also remember that this deposit goes towards your room total, so after it's deducted one day of your stay is already paid in full. However, if you cancel your reservation after the deposit is deducted, you don't get it back.

TIP: It is highly advisable to get roommates (that you preferably get along with and trust) to divide the room cost. 50-75% savings on $370+ is a pretty sweet deal. Additionally, make sure you collect their part of the fees before you hand out the keys.

If you're worried about beds, Saphrinka has good advice on accommodating extra people:

View PostSaphrinka, on Sep 2 2009, 07:22 PM, said:

Also, just a tip on rooming stuff: rollaway beds are a real nice commodity if you can get them. They are especially handy if you have a group, and there are more people who want or need to sleep in an actual bed than available bedspace can accommodate. That being said, though, if you want to save as much money as you can, as rollaways can add up in costs, find out if your buddies can stand to camp on the floor if need be.
Air mattresses and/or sleeping bags are recommended for those who may have to sleep on the floor. You can also be nice and give those people priority on the pillows. ;)
NOTE--Rooms with double beds are not eligible for rollaways. Please contact the hotel to find out whether there are any additional charges for the rollaways.

Additionally, you may want to consider including tips in room costs, especially for the folks who lugged all your stuff to your room. And despite what it may look like, it wasn't a ninja who sneaked in and made up your bed so nicely while you were at that early-morning panel or photoshoot! ;)

View PostOreo_Otaku, on 01 November 2010 - 03:53 AM, said:

I know this is common courtesy for service based goods like restaurants, but don't forget to tip the bellhop and house keeping. They're working for you to earn a living.

Guideline: http://hotels.about....a/tipping_2.htm



*Food
This is the biggest section, because people tend to forget to eat and stay hydrated while at conventions due to all the excitement and running around, and sometimes food is a challenge to find.
$20-25 a day ought to work as a food budget, depending on how much you eat and how often you eat out. Eating at McDonald's may make it cheaper, eating at Denny's, Steak and Shake, IHOP, or the hotel restaurant will likely make it more, especially the hotel. I had breakfast there once, and it cost me $22 easy.

(A recommendation from sisterdiscord for saving money on restaurants:)

View Postsisterdiscord, on Sep 2 2009, 06:01 PM, said:

If you want to plan a bit in advance and eat on the cheap(er) at local restaurants, check out http://www.restaurant.com/. You can pre-buy gift certificates for lots of local restaurants, and buy them at a discount. Now--make sure if you do this, that you read the fine print--some aren't valid weekends, or have a minimum purchase, but if you play it right, bring a friend, and pay together it can make a GOOD meal well within reach. I try to do this when I come to town, it lets me explore the local flavor without breaking the bank.

Here's an example:
I just went there and punched in the 60018 zip---and there's a cert for Gibsons:

$25 gift card for $10, Valid with a minimum purchase of $50. Dine in only. Dinner only. 18% gratuity added before discount. Valid at Rosemont location only.

Lots of terms and such, but it could save you fifteen bucks. There's also a $25 card for O'h, and one for the ex-Sofitel, either is ten bucks with minimum purchase of $35.

If you don't want to leave the convention area, there's food to be found on-site as well. KnitChick suggests visiting the Expoteria while at ACen:

View PostKnitChick (paraphrased), on Sep 2 2009, 11:40 PM, said:

If you want reasonable decent food without a ton of walking, the Expoteria in the convention center is a good pick. The food is edible, and reasonably priced. I usually spend no more than $10 there for food, burger and drink or the daily special. It's easily accessible from the hamster trails or from the garden.
I should mention that the Expoteria is only open from 7am to 4pm. There is also a concession stand inside the Convention Center near the Dealer's Hall that is open until 2:30pm.

Of course you could bring your own food and drink, but remember there's no microwave in the rooms at the Hyatt (as far as I can remember). If you really need to have a microwave oven, they are available in the rooms at the Embassy. There are also ice machines if you want to bring a cooler, and a coffee maker for cup ramen and other "add hot water" foods. I think some rooms actually have usable mini-fridges now as well (along with the infamous "no-touch" fridge?)--mine had one before, but I didn't notice it until that Sunday. I was a sad kitty thinking about all the icy-cold Pepsi I could've had...
(Thanks to Hikari189 for the info about the Embassy!)

TIP: If you have two mini-fridges and are not sure which one is the "no-touch" fridge, the safe-to-use one is usually the smaller of the two. According to Saphrinka, you can even ask to get the "no-touch" fridge removed from the room:

View PostSaphrinka, on Sep 2 2009, 07:22 PM, said:

If you can, ask the hotel if they can have it removed or switched with a normal fridge. The last thing anyone wants is someone accidentally bumping the sensors, or worse, a friend of a friend whom you don't know wandering in and touching the stuff. We had the fridges switched out last year, and the year before, but the years before that, we told people not to go near the fridge on pain of death.


Dealer's Hall/Artist's Alley
I usually set aside about $150-200 in cash for buying sketch commissions, manga, plushies, swords, anime, ACen swag, and whatever, but that's me (I don't always spend that much, but it's nice to have).

Hikari189's tip for Dealer Hall shopping:

View PostHikari189, on Sep 3 2009, 09:32 AM, said:

When I see something I want in the Exhibit Hall and I think that I can find it cheaper online I go back to my hotel room that night and check. If I find it cheaper then I don't buy it, if it's about the same I usually by it at the con just to avoid shipping and handling charges. Of course, you have to have internet in your room to do this.

If you have the time, price comparison shopping can save you money as well. There are likely to be vendors that sell the same items at multiple booths:

View PostHikari189, on Sep 4 2009, 09:57 PM, said:

If you see something you want you should make sure to check out every booth to see if it's cheaper somewhere else. If you do find it somewhere else go to one of the other vendors who's selling it and mention it to them and see if they'll drop the price. I once managed to get a figure I wanted dropped from $25 to $15 just by looking around and managing to find a vendor who didn't want to lose business.

You are not obligated to shop in the dealer's hall, but it's a good idea to have cash because if you do happen to go in there and spot an irresistible deal or something you just gotta have, you'll probably kick yourself for not bringing any money at all.

TIP: If you're good at haggling, you can try to talk some of the dealers down on their prices. It's easiest to do this on Sunday, but be warned that things also sell out pretty quickly over Friday and Saturday.


Transportation
Remember to factor in gas and possible tolls for driving (if you drive), chipping in for gas and possible tolls (if you're carpooling), or train/plane/bus fare (there and back).

TIP: Planes, trains, and buses usually give a nice discount if you purchase the tickets early.

Here's a suggestion from Saphrinka on at-con transportation:

Saphrinka)(paraphrased said:

If you find yourself wanting to go to, say, Denny's or McDonald's but you're too achy, tired or lazy to walk all the way there, there are taxis that you can take to and from the Hyatt. I can't remember what the fares were for that, but if you plan on doing something of this nature at the con, be sure to bring some extra cash for the cab fares. And remember to tip the cabbies!

Some info I pulled up on average cab fares for Chicago:

cityofchicago.org said:

The passenger is required to pay the amount on the taximeter plus any additional tolls or fees. The initial entry, sometimes called a "meter drop" or "flag pull", is $2.25 regardless of distance traveled.
Each additional fraction of a mile charge is $.20 for each additional 1/9 of a mile. Additionally, each 36 seconds of time elapsed, known as "wait time", is $.20. This charge is in place to ensure the driver still makes money if the cab is stuck in bad traffic.
There is a flat fee of $1.00 for the first additional passenger and another $.50 for each additional passenger after that unless the passenger is under 12 or over 65 years of age.
So basically, it'll likely cost you and two friends about $8-10 per one-way trip to go to Denny's or McDonalds (and then there's the ride back).


Parking
This depends on where you park. The garage across the street from the convention center was $14 per entry last year (correct me if I'm wrong, as I didn't use it last year), but it's likely to be more this year. You take a ticket and park there over the whole weekend for $42 (or one entry fee per day times the total number of days you parked) if you don't leave the garage. Of course, you have to pay every time you re-enter, so if you leave and come back it will cost more.

The Hyatt parking lot this year is $16 a day (if you stay at the hotel) and you get exit privileges. You take a ticket, but remember to keep it in a secure place in your car or take it with you, because when you exit you have to use that ticket to punch at the gate when you leave and come back. There is a penalty if you lose your ticket; I forgot how much, but it's steep.

You'll have to check with the other hotels about their parking fees and privileges.
(Credit for this info goes to: SongstressLenne, magishine)


Other Stuff
Things like throwing a room party may take a bit of extra cash, or sometimes you and your friends may want to go out before/after the con and do non-convention things (like Mitsuwa Marketplace or the mall). If you have other things planned, make sure you plan for that cost as well.

Wi-fi service (T-Mobile) is available in the Hyatt, but it's a pay service. One day of internet service will cost $10-13, which is either billable to your room (meaning that it is added to your bill before you check out), or immediately charged to your credit/debit card account. Unless you have frequent need to access the internet while at the convention, it's kind of a waste.
(Thanks to Hikari189 for the reminder about wifi service!)

For those of you who wonder about finding ATM's Suigetsu suggests:

View PostSuigetsu (paraphrased), on Sep 2 2009, 09:54 PM, said:

If you are thinking cash, bring it beforehand. There is a cash machine, but it tends to run out early Friday. Many dealers do, in fact, take a credit card, but there might be an extra charge depending on the dealer.



So that's it, I think. If I forgot something, please chime in and I'll add it to the first post so people won't have to read the entire thread to find it. I'll give you credit for your advice unless it's something I already said or if it is off-topic. (Remember, this thread is about how much to save for ACen--not Con Survival 101 or Convention Packing List!).

Also, remember that you don't always have to pay everything all at once, like pre-registration, buying plane/bus/train fare, and of course when the hotel deposit kicks in a month to two weeks before con.

These numbers (while not exact) should be pretty useful in helping you budget for next year at ACen, and if you start now there should be plenty of time to save up. ::hint fastball!:: When in doubt, round up to the nearest $5 or $10--you'll appreciate the extra few dollars, believe me!


*Items marked with an asterisk may not apply if you join staff or gofer for the convention.

? "no-touch" fridge--the infamous fridge at the Hyatt that contains highly overpriced pay-for-consumption items. The fridge has sensors which are a bit touchy and sometimes even opening or bumping the fridge will cause the indicator to go off, and the front desk will charge your bill as if you consumed an item. If you can prove the item was not used you can get the charge removed, but it's really a bother.

^ Fire code limits max occupancy for a standard king or double hotel room to four people, and will only issue four keys max. If you cram more than that into a room and they catch you, they do reserve the right to eject all occupants. (Just sayin'...)
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 08:52 AM

Oh, you forgot parking! Everyone always forgets the cost of parking. If you don't luck out with staying at the Hyatt and you end up using the parking lot across the street, you'll need to pay that [I think o.o ]. I think it's like $25.00-$30.00 for the weekend?

I think that's it, you covered everything else pretty well. :thumbup:


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Posted 02 September 2009 - 08:59 AM

Oh, thanks! I'll add that right now.
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 09:04 AM

I forgot that one year, so that's why I remembered it. Thankfully I had a emergency credit card to put it on.

But T_C I really like this idea, I might sticky this down the road because this is a realllly good guide for people that are trying to save on their own.


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Posted 02 September 2009 - 09:08 AM

View PostSongstressLenne, on Sep 2 2009, 10:52 AM, said:

Oh, you forgot parking! Everyone always forgets the cost of parking. If you don't luck out with staying at the Hyatt and you end up using the parking lot across the street, you'll need to pay that [I think o.o ]. I think it's like $25.00-$30.00 for the weekend?

I think that's it, you covered everything else pretty well. :thumbup:



I'll chime in when it comes to parking.

If you end up parking at the Convention Center parking lot (the one between Double Tree and the Embassy Suites) you will pay $13 EACH TIME you park so if you (like I did) want to go back to your room and go back later you will spend $26 a day on parking. Sooo glad I'm not doing that again.
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 09:35 AM

OK, it was $13. I'll fix that. It's likely to be $15 this year, though.
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 09:38 AM

View Postthis_chick25, on Sep 2 2009, 11:35 AM, said:

OK, it was $13. I'll fix that. It's likely to be $15 this year, though.



Your right it probably will be $15 this year. Ouch
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 11:18 AM

Eating at the hotel restaurants will smoke that $20-$25 dollar budget..unless you eat twice a day..then you can swing that but they just aren't worth it. Being able to drive around provides so many other ample choices, thankfully.

Luckily I'm never in a position to actually have to budget stuff out. (total con cost for myself is pretty high)

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 11:44 AM

Also, if you find yourself wanting to go to, say, Denny's or McDonald's but you're too achy, tired or lazy to walk all the way there, there are taxis that you can take to and from the Hyatt. (My friends and I did this last year.) I can't remember what the fares were for that, but if you plan on doing something of this nature at the con, be sure to bring some extra cash for the cab fares. And remember to tip the cabbies! Most if not all of the ones we had last year were very nice, and got well-deserved tips in return!
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 11:54 AM

:lol: I budget to regulate my spending moreso than to be able to afford it. I could so easily blow $300 in the Dealer's Hall alone if I don't watch myself. It's the main reason why I don't bring a pull-cart (or my main debit card) in there.

Taxis... good idea!

Hmm... I think I'll put that under "Transportation". That walk to McDonalds is killer--especially after trompin' around con all day in platform boots!

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 01:25 PM

Somehow I seem to wing it and walk out happy going in with a total of about 200-250 bucks each year, I just keep telling myself "I can find this online" but...usually when that happens I'm in despair about it when I get home and see the costs of shipping for some of the products I want, kinda reinforcing what TC said, if you've got the money and you want it, get it there, it may look like sort of a bad deal for some of the prices you see but trust me...With shipping those lower prices online aren't any better, sometimes worse.

View Postthis_chick25, on Sep 2 2009, 12:54 PM, said:

:lol: I budget to regulate my spending moreso than to be able to afford it. I could so easily blow $300 in the Dealer's Hall alone if I don't watch myself. It's the main reason why I don't bring a pull-cart (or my main debit card) in there.

Taxis... good idea!

Hmm... I think I'll put that under "Transportation". That walk to McDonalds is killer--especially after trompin' around con all day in platform boots!


Man you aren't kidding about the walk to and from McDonalds in platformers...My Yoko boots left my dogs with blisters when I was done at the end of the day. Needless to say if you can afford it, get a lift, your feet will thank you later for it.
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 02:16 PM

View Postthis_chick25, on Sep 2 2009, 09:10 AM, said:

*Weekend Badge: $40 if you pre-register and pay now on the website, $35 if you pre-register and pay at the Road Show tour, $45 if you pre-register and pay in time for the next tier, and $50 for at-con. If you want your badge mailed, add $2 to any of those prices except at-con.
The "and pay" part is important (which is why I keep mentioning it). Even if you pre-register today, if you don't pay until the last tier you'll have to pay the price for that tier.

You forgot a tier. Regular registration rate (January 16April 1, 2010) is $50. Will Call registration and At-con rate is $55.
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 02:17 PM

You two sound old talking about the walk to McDonalds. I myself always spend a hefty amount on food. This year I plan on hitting the Capital Grill and hope to get a few people to join me.
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 02:27 PM

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 02:33 PM

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 02:35 PM

I'm glad I can do ACen on the cheap looking at these numbers ._. (of course a plane ticket isn't exactly cheap these days...)
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 03:13 PM

I'm glad this got posted before people start asking! Cause we all know it was (and probably still will) bound to happen!

I should definitely take your advice with money for the dealer's room. I can easily blow big bucks there and have. I am going to try and limit myself and actually really watch what I buy. (It helps that my doujinshi want list is small this year and the titles/pairings will more than likely not be in)
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 03:16 PM

View PostOreo_Otaku, on Sep 2 2009, 03:16 PM, said:

You forgot a tier. Regular registration rate (January 16—April 1, 2010) is $50. Will Call registration and At-con rate is $55.


::facepalm:: Oh yeah, I see it. Fixed--thanks!

View PostAlkaren Hyralt, on Sep 2 2009, 03:35 PM, said:

I'm glad I can do ACen on the cheap looking at these numbers ._. (of course a plane ticket isn't exactly cheap these days...)

Even I don't spend as much as I quoted total on ACen--having three roommates to share the room, registering and paying as early as possible, bringing my own food for the majority of the trip (and sharing those costs), having an IPass, and little things like that bring the total expenditures down a great deal.

View PostIsamu, on Sep 2 2009, 03:17 PM, said:

You two sound old talking about the walk to McDonalds. I myself always spend a hefty amount on food. This year I plan on hitting the Capital Grill and hope to get a few people to join me.

My body is convinced that I am twice my age at times. We argue a lot on the subject.

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 03:49 PM

View PostOreo_Otaku, on Sep 2 2009, 04:27 PM, said:

That's right! It just opened recently with the Intercontinental Hotel.

We wanted to hit it this year but went back to Gibson's. A guy at the Red bar said the steaks there are great. This year it was Flyingelf, Rondo, and myself and I would like to double that if possible.

Well T-C I guess in a couple more days you will be adding another nail to the coffin.

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 04:02 PM

Argh... yeah. Thanks for reminding me.

::le sigh:: I shall be reaching my "final age". (Many women start lying about their age after 29... I wonder if people will believe that I am that old.)
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 05:01 PM

View Postthis_chick25, on Sep 2 2009, 10:02 PM, said:

Argh... yeah. Thanks for reminding me.

::le sigh:: I shall be reaching my "final age". (Many women start lying about their age after 29... I wonder if people will believe that I am that old.)


If you want to plan a bit in advance and eat on the cheap(er) at local restaurants, check out http://www.restaurant.com/. You can pre-buy gift certificates for lots of local restaurants, and buy them at a discount. Now--make sure if you do this, that you read the fine print--some aren't valid weekends, or have a minimum purchase, but if you play it right, bring a friend, and pay together it can make a GOOD meal well within reach. I try to do this when I come to town, it lets me explore the local flavor without breaking the bank.

Here's an example:
I just went there and punched in the 60018 zip---and there's a cert for Gibsons:

$25 gift card for $10, Valid with a minimum purchase of $50. Dine in only. Dinner only. 18% gratuity added before discount. Valid at Rosemont location only.

Lots of terms and such, but it could save you fifteen bucks. There's also a $25 card for O'h, and one for the ex-Sofitel, either is ten bucks with minimum purchase of $35.
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 05:13 PM

Wow--that's some REALLY good advice--I just added it to the list.
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 05:25 PM

This would do some good as a sticky thread since this topic does come up quite a bit, so if there are no objections, I will make this a sticky.


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Posted 02 September 2009 - 05:32 PM

View Postakaikurama, on Sep 2 2009, 11:25 PM, said:

This would do some good as a sticky thread since this topic does come up quite a bit, so if there are no objections, I will make this a sticky.


(oh and not all women over 30 lie, I'm 37 and tell that to anyone who asks, don't lie about it own it!)

Please sticky it!

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 05:38 PM

OMG I GOT A STICKY!! ::honored::

I feel better now, ladies--thanks for the encouragement.

It's not so much I'll feel old, it's that no one will believe me! I still have problems getting carded at restaurants and bars... :wacko: They'll think I have a fake ID.
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 06:22 PM

I can sympathize - I'm turning 26 in November, but the majority of my coworkers, during conversation, stopped and asked me how old I was. I told them, and they'd stare at me in disbelief. My favorite tactic is to grin and say, "What, do I look younger than that?" At which point they can't really build a concrete answer, *lol*

OH, and we all hate hate hate the no-touch fridges. If you can, ask the hotel if they can have it removed or switched with a normal fridge. The last thing anyone wants is someone accidentally bumping the sensors, or worse, a friend of a friend whom you don't know wandering in and touching the stuff. We had the fridges switched out last year, and the year before, but the years before that, we told people not to go near the fridge on pain of death.

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 06:26 PM

Very useful stuff--I'll add it in.

(Hope you don't mind me paraphrasing you so much, but I'm trying to keep the character count down so I won't hit the limit too fast.)
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 07:18 PM

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I love a nice warm bed, but all I need is a blanket and a pillow to sleep well, and the floors aren't that bad.


I heart my air mattress for such things, too. :)
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 07:33 PM

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Very useful stuff--I'll add it in.

(Hope you don't mind me paraphrasing you so much, but I'm trying to keep the character count down so I won't hit the limit too fast.)


Oh no worries, *lol* You have a legit excuse - that and all one has to do is scroll down to see the whole novella!
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 08:54 PM

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